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Subject:    Re: [Kde-pim] [Desktop_architects] LinuxTag 2006 -- What
From:       Kevin Krammer <kevin.krammer () gmx ! at>
Date:       2006-05-07 14:18:52
Message-ID: 200605071619.05665.kevin.krammer () gmx ! at
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On Sunday 07 May 2006 14:29, Egbert Eich wrote:
> Till Kamppeter writes:

>  > - Unique fonts on all distros: A core set of fonts should be absolutely
>  >   identical on all distros. These fonts should be default
>
> This would require a decent set of open sourced fonts available that
> cover the character sets that are required in the locales where linux
> matters.
> We've discussed this often at X.Org (as we are one source of fonts):
> - Few open source tools exist to help with font design.
> - Good font desgin is a hard job requiring a lot of experience.
>   (Probably not a job for a group of people from the community to
>   pick up)
> - There is almost no way around taking some money and 'by' fonts
>   to put them under a suitable license.

I think there is an additonal issue about font rendering, or at least I read 
that different toolkits/environments seem to treat the DPI settings 
differently (fixed DPI values vs. screen/resolution based value)

>  > - Unique Linux portal and central support (similar to linuxprinting.org
>  >   for printing)
>
> Wonder if this isn't a single opinion.

Being in KDE support for a couple of years now, I'd say this is a common wish.
Or rather havein easier access to the separated support channels. e.g. single 
sign-on.
For example if a German speaking Linux user has question they are very likely 
getting a satisfactory answer on linuxforen.de
However, if the issue is something distribution specific or requires deeper 
knowledge (e.g. feedback from a developer), they are referred to the 
respecitve help site, but this requires to create yet another account, yet 
another inconvenience.

Actually, my observation on support is that it is gettin increasingly 
difficult to handle the demand. In case anyone's interested I wrote about 
some issues related to KDE support here:
http://www.kdedevelopers.org/node/1853

>  > - Simple access to Blootooth devices, use of available Bluetooth
>  >   services by a GUI
>
> This goes with 'Support for mobile professionals' below.
>
>  > - PCs with Linux pre-installed
>
> Yes!
>
>  > - Outlook replacement "better" than evolution:
>  >    o Group calendar
>  >    o Connection to Exchange
>  >    o Repeatedly happening appointements (weekly meetings, ...)
>  >    o Different SMTP mail send servers for each POP3/IMAP4 account
>
> This looks like a list of features that some user is used to
> from outlook that are missing on the replacement he has been
> migrated to.
> The underlying question here is:
> Do we need to reimplement all features of a M$ product to make
> people who migrate happy?

Yes, this expectations are a problem for themselves. For example sometimes 
users on KOffice's user mailinglist ask when KOffice will add an email 
application, just because the bundling of Outlook with Microsoft Office made 
them believe it belongs to an "Office" package, not seeing that PIM is 
handled by the applications offered in the KDE-PIM module.

Btw, I think Kontact can handle the above items minus the Exchange 
integration.

>  > - Unique dialogs
>  >
>  > - Installation of 3rd-party software too complicated (Java, Acrobat,
>  >   drivers)
>
> Agreed!

Appearently SUN wants this to improve as well:
http://news.com.com/Sun+to+make+Java+more+Linux-friendly/2100-7344_3-6068852.html

>  > - Support for mobile professionals: WLAN, telco-Boards, integration with
>  >   mail, ...
>  >
>  > - I love diversity -- Everything the same we have with M$
>  >
>  > None of thee answers were posted more than once (probably because
>  > visitors already read the already existing answers).
>
> Posting these on the booth wall seems to be counterproductive when
> trying to collect a representative opinion base.
>
> Ch.
> 	Egbert.

Cheers,
Kevin

-- 
Kevin Krammer <kevin.krammer@gmx.at>
Qt/KDE Developer, Debian User
Moderator: www.mrunix.de (German), www.qtcentre.org

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