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List:       kde-pim
Subject:    Re: [Kde-pim] KOrganizer Alarm
From:       Reinhold Kainhofer <reinhold () kainhofer ! com>
Date:       2005-01-14 17:40:57
Message-ID: 200501141840.59042.reinhold () kainhofer ! com
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On Friday 14 January 2005 18:24, Allen Winter wrote:
> On Friday 14 January 2005 11:44 am, Reinhold Kainhofer wrote:
> > On Friday 14 January 2005 17:18, Allen Winter wrote:
> > > I would think that:
> > >   "Toggle alarm" should set/unset the alarm if the incidence has a
> > > reminder. Else the "Toggle alarm" selection should be disabled.
> >
> > An incidence either has an alarm set, or it hasn't. In the first case,
> > the menu item shall disable the alarm,
>
> OK, then Toggle Alarm should be disabled if the incidence does not have a
> reminder set. Else Toggle Alarm should remove the reminder from the
> incidence

So there would be no easy way quickly add an alarm?

> Maybe we can think about this more in a future KOrg.
> As has been pointed out earlier in this thread, reminders/alarms can be
> much more complex than we are currently allowing for.  

Sure they can. That's why I thought about implementing multiple alarms, with 
offsets from either start or end, etc.:
http://mail.kde.org/pipermail/kdepim-usability/2004-September/000012.html

But the main use case will still be a simple offset from the start. And that 
should be made as easy and straight-forward as possible.

> And some libkcal tweaks.

Where would you need the libkcal tweaks? Libkcal supports alarms relative to 
the start, relative to the end and at a fixed time. That's all implemented.

And to store an offset for an alarm in the incidence, but disable the alarm 
itself, is not possible in the iCalendar spec, so we can't tweak libkcal to 
implement this. Besides, that would just add more complexity for no real 
reason.

> PS. I still think the default alarm time configuration setting should be
> eliminated...

And I still think we need it for the "toggle alarm" menu item... ;-)

Cheers,
Reinhold

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Reinhold Kainhofer, Vienna University of Technology, Austria
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