'Re: [Kde-pim] installing kde 2.2.1 unofficial over kde 2.1 on RedHat 7.1'

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List:       kde-pim
Subject:    Re: [Kde-pim] installing kde 2.2.1 unofficial over kde 2.1 on RedHat 7.1
From:       Adriaan de Groot <adridg () adridg ! sci ! kun ! nl>
Date:       2001-10-29 8:32:20
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So let me respond to David's more inflammatory comments first:

> Hrrm.  The flames aren't rolling in fast enough.  I'll add more fuel to the
> fire.  Vi rules! Emacs sucks!
>
> Ah, there we go.  Now where did my bag of marshmallows go.......

Real men don't use Qt designer, they hand-code all their UIs (with vi).

As for Aron:

> On Sunday 28 October 2001 08:04 pm, Aron Insinga wrote:
> > I'm having trouble installing kde 2.2.1 unofficial RedHat 7.1 packages
> > over kde 2.1.  I found all of the packages needed to supply missing
> > stuff.  I removed the LPRng packages.  Now I get lots of messages of the
> > form:
> >
> > file /usr/include/kde/arts/artsbuilder.h from install of
> > kdemultimedia-devel-2.2-0.rh7x.1 conflicts with file from package
> > kdemultimedia-2.1.1-1

This indicates the some stuff that used to be in the -devel packages (like 
header files) has (accidentally?) migrated into the regular packages, and rpm 
believes that one file should belong to only one package. How inconvenient.

> > What do I do?  Boot single-user command-prompt and remove all of the kde
> > 2.1 packages first?  Is there anything safe and less painful?  (Maybe I
> > should just get a RedHat 7.2 distribution and start over in a new
> > partition...)

RH 7.2 may be slightly more stable, but then ytou're looking at a KDE 2.2.1 
installed binary system, and you'll probably still have problems when the 
2.2.2 rpm comes out.

> > [I think I started down this rathole to get newer sources with .ui files
> > in them so I could look at spacing and sizes, but by now I really don't
> > remember.]

Didn't I give you the assignment to deal with memo import and export?

On Monday 29 October 2001 03:13 am, David Bishop wrote:
> While I haven't used an rpm-based distro in a while, I think the command
> you are looking for is "rpm --force" or "rpm --nodeps" (can't remember
> which one).  Undoubtably, someone will followup this post with a "argh!
> That will destroy the inherited vectorness of the unique quantum flux
> database!" or somesuch.  Feel free to ignore them :-)  Or, if installing
> redhat 7.2 is an option, take the same time to learn how to install debian
> and enjoy the saneness of a real distro.

Yes, on the same distro-flamewars note, I've been a RH user for years now and 
in some ways it just keeps getting wonkier. I'm like this far (holds up 
fingers) from installing FreeBSD and dealing with *those* headaches instead. 
For a really sensible and stable KDE, I really do suggest:

1) build a gcc-2.95.3 thing with the required libstdc++
2) build all the support libs (openssl, libxml2) with that
3) build qt
4) build kde

Especially since on my system, what ought to be rock-solid post-2.2.1 konqui 
crashes on everything more complicated than a local file containing 
<html></html>.

So much for packaging, distro, and build woes. Next message: quo vadis kpilot?
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