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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    [Differential] [Commented On] D2610: Make icon follow styleHints
From:       "colomar (Thomas Pfeiffer)" <noreply () phabricator ! kde ! org>
Date:       2016-08-30 15:52:46
Message-ID: 20160830155237.98229.70842.DEC80B5A () phabricator ! kde ! org
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  > What you say does make sense, but I'd like to note that in KDE4 they did respect \
the single-/double-click settings (when on the desktop, not in the panel), so this \
can be seen as "regression" in Plasma5.  
  I'd call it an improvement, actually, because now it makes more sense.
  
  > And I think the problem is that while it is true that they are different from \
folderview icons technically, for a "normal" user they are probably the same.  
  It might be for many, but those who treat a desktop containment like a folderview \
will have that mental model shattered pretty quickly anyway: For example, a single \
click still would not select an icon widget like a file in a folderview, because \
widgets cannot be selected, or clicking on a different widget on the desktop might \
execute an action immediately, which is inconsistent again.  
  If I'd set up Plasma for someone coming from Windows (or any other OS/DE that \
treats the desktop like a file browser), I'd choose the folderview containment for \
them so that they can keep their mental model (which does not contain the notion of \
widgets on the desktop, anyway). If someone chooses the desktop containment, there is \
no way around adapting your mental model.

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background-color: #f8f9fc;"><p>What you say does make sense, but I&#039;d like to \
note that in KDE4 they did respect the single-/double-click settings (when on the \
desktop, not in the panel), so this can be seen as &quot;regression&quot; in \
Plasma5.</p></blockquote>

<p>I&#039;d call it an improvement, actually, because now it makes more sense.</p>

<blockquote style="border-left: 3px solid #a7b5bf; color: #464c5c; font-style: \
italic; margin: 4px 0 12px 0; padding: 4px 12px; background-color: #f8f9fc;"><p>And I \
think the problem is that while it is true that they are different from folderview \
icons technically, for a &quot;normal&quot; user they are probably the \
same.</p></blockquote>

<p>It might be for many, but those who treat a desktop containment like a folderview \
will have that mental model shattered pretty quickly anyway: For example, a single \
click still would not select an icon widget like a file in a folderview, because \
widgets cannot be selected, or clicking on a different widget on the desktop might \
execute an action immediately, which is inconsistent again.</p>

<p>If I&#039;d set up Plasma for someone coming from Windows (or any other OS/DE that \
treats the desktop like a file browser), I&#039;d choose the folderview containment \
for them so that they can keep their mental model (which does not contain the notion \
of widgets on the desktop, anyway). If someone chooses the desktop containment, there \
is no way around adapting your mental model.</p></div></div><br \
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