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Subject: Re: Review Request 127492: KCM: Add possibility to move stream to other devices
From: Kai Uwe Broulik <kde () privat ! broulik ! de>
Date: 2016-03-31 20:49:59
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> On März 25, 2016, 7:24 nachm., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Two questions:
> > 1. If there is only one device, are the comoboxes hidden (they should be)?
> > 2. If I change the default device, are all streams automatically switched to that device?
>
> David Rosca wrote:
> 1. Yes
> 2. No, it just sets the pulseaudio default sink/source. It is then used as fallback device (when \
> stream's device disappears, it will move to default device) and probably also for new streams.
> I also plan to make the global shortcut to change/mute volume and osd to only work with default device.
>
> Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> 1. Good
> 2. A bit of a problem. Or rather, it means we have to re-think some things. The problem is that \
> currently we make the more common scenario (just switching all audio to a different device) more \
> complicated to do than the more advanced scenario (moving individual streams).
> I know that in theory, PulseAudio should be smart enough to just switch all audio to a newly plugged-in \
> or switched-on device, but from my own experience I can say that this automatism doesn't always work. \
> So for example if I have my TV connected to HDMI, I want all audio to go through my speakers when the \
> TV is off. When I switch the TV on, though, it's more likely that I just want all audio to go through \
> it instead of having to switch individual streams. Switching individual streams is a nice feature, but \
> only useful for rather advanced setups. So we should keep it, but we need a way to move all output to a \
> different device easier.
> David Rosca wrote:
> Sure, rerouting all streams to one device can be added. Any idea where to expose it in ui?
>
> Xuetian Weng wrote:
> I also wonder, is it possible to route the sound to multiple device at the same time? If so maybe \
> combobox is not enough.
> Also I feel this feature is not a commonly used feature. I wonder if it is possible to hide it until \
> user click on it, just like when you click on connection in plasma-nm, you'll see connection details in \
> plasma-nm.
> I also wonder, is it possible to route the sound to multiple device at the same time? If so maybe \
> combobox is not enough.
Oh, I would love that :) We could use a Button with an attached Menu with checkable items instead, \
UI-wise should be least of our problems I guess.
- Kai Uwe
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On März 25, 2016, 4:48 nachm., David Rosca wrote:
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> (Updated März 25, 2016, 4:48 nachm.)
>
>
> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
>
>
> Repository: plasma-pa
>
>
> Description
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>
> Add combobox next to mute button with available devices.
>
>
> Diffs
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> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/DeviceComboBox.qml PRE-CREATION
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SinkInputView.qml PRE-CREATION
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SourceOutputView.qml PRE-CREATION
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamListItem.qml 7f1d69e
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamView.qml b08c87a
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/main.qml 3360201
>
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127492/diff/
>
>
> Testing
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> File Attachments
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> Screenshot_20160325_142736.png
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2016/03/25/06b2aafd-f05d-4140-933a-89fbc8ed7c5c__Screenshot_20160325_142736.png
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>
> Thanks,
>
> David Rosca
>
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<p style="margin-top: 0;">On März 25th, 2016, 7:24 nachm. UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: \
-o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Two questions: 1. If there is only one device, are the comoboxes hidden \
(they should be)? 2. If I change the default device, are all streams automatically switched to that \
device?</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On März 25th, 2016, 7:30 nachm. UTC, <b>David Rosca</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: \
-o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><ol style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0 0 0 \
2em;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;"> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Yes</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">No, it just sets the pulseaudio default \
sink/source. It is then used as fallback device (when stream's device disappears, it will move to default \
device) and probably also for new streams.</li> </ol>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I also \
plan to make the global shortcut to change/mute volume and osd to only work with default \
device.</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On März 25th, 2016, 7:46 nachm. UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: \
-o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><ol style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0 0 0 \
2em;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;"> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">Good</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">A bit of a problem. Or rather, it means we \
have to re-think some things. The problem is that currently we make the more common scenario (just \
switching all audio to a different device) more complicated to do than the more advanced scenario (moving \
individual streams).</li> </ol>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I know \
that in theory, PulseAudio should be smart enough to just switch all audio to a newly plugged-in or \
switched-on device, but from my own experience I can say that this automatism doesn't always work. So for \
example if I have my TV connected to HDMI, I want all audio to go through my speakers when the TV is off. \
When I switch the TV on, though, it's more likely that I just want all audio to go through it instead of \
having to switch individual streams. Switching individual streams is a nice feature, but only useful for \
rather advanced setups. So we should keep it, but we need a way to move all output to a different device \
easier.</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On März 25th, 2016, 8:40 nachm. UTC, <b>David Rosca</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: \
-o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Sure, rerouting all streams to one device can be added. Any idea where to \
expose it in ui?</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On März 31st, 2016, 8:45 nachm. UTC, <b>Xuetian Weng</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: \
-o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">I also wonder, is it possible to route the sound to multiple device at the \
same time? If so maybe combobox is not enough.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: \
0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Also I feel this feature is not a commonly used feature. I \
wonder if it is possible to hide it until user click on it, just like when you click on connection in \
plasma-nm, you'll see connection details in plasma-nm.</p></pre> </blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: \
-o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><blockquote style="text-rendering: inherit;padding: 0 0 0 \
1em;border-left: 1px solid #bbb;white-space: normal;margin: 0 0 0 0.5em;line-height: inherit;"> <p \
style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">I also \
wonder, is it possible to route the sound to multiple device at the same time? If so maybe combobox is \
not enough.</p> </blockquote>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Oh, I \
would love that :) We could use a Button with an attached Menu with checkable items instead, UI-wise \
should be least of our problems I guess.</p></pre> <br />
<p>- Kai Uwe</p>
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<p>On März 25th, 2016, 4:48 nachm. UTC, David Rosca wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.</div>
<div>By David Rosca.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated März 25, 2016, 4:48 nachm.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
plasma-pa
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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#b8b5a0"> <tr>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Add combobox next to mute button with \
available devices.</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/DeviceComboBox.qml <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SinkInputView.qml <span style="color: grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SourceOutputView.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamListItem.qml <span style="color: grey">(7f1d69e)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamView.qml <span style="color: grey">(b08c87a)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/main.qml <span style="color: grey">(3360201)</span></li>
</ul>
<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127492/diff/" style="margin-left: 3em;">View Diff</a></p>
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