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Subject: Re: Review Request 127492: KCM: Add possibility to move stream to other devices
From: Thomas Pfeiffer <colomar () autistici ! org>
Date: 2016-03-25 19:46:35
Message-ID: 20160325194635.21226.58276 () mimi ! kde ! org
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> On March 25, 2016, 7:24 p.m., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > Two questions:
> > 1. If there is only one device, are the comoboxes hidden (they should be)?
> > 2. If I change the default device, are all streams automatically switched to that \
> > device?
>
> David Rosca wrote:
> 1. Yes
> 2. No, it just sets the pulseaudio default sink/source. It is then used as fallback \
> device (when stream's device disappears, it will move to default device) and \
> probably also for new streams.
> I also plan to make the global shortcut to change/mute volume and osd to only work \
> with default device.
1. Good
2. A bit of a problem. Or rather, it means we have to re-think some things. The \
problem is that currently we make the more common scenario (just switching all audio \
to a different device) more complicated to do than the more advanced scenario (moving \
individual streams).
I know that in theory, PulseAudio should be smart enough to just switch all audio to \
a newly plugged-in or switched-on device, but from my own experience I can say that \
this automatism doesn't always work. So for example if I have my TV connected to \
HDMI, I want all audio to go through my speakers when the TV is off. When I switch \
the TV on, though, it's more likely that I just want all audio to go through it \
instead of having to switch individual streams. Switching individual streams is a \
nice feature, but only useful for rather advanced setups. So we should keep it, but \
we need a way to move all output to a different device easier.
- Thomas
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On March 25, 2016, 4:48 p.m., David Rosca wrote:
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> (Updated March 25, 2016, 4:48 p.m.)
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>
> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
>
>
> Repository: plasma-pa
>
>
> Description
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> Add combobox next to mute button with available devices.
>
>
> Diffs
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> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/DeviceComboBox.qml PRE-CREATION
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SinkInputView.qml PRE-CREATION
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SourceOutputView.qml PRE-CREATION
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamListItem.qml 7f1d69e
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamView.qml b08c87a
> src/kcm/package/contents/ui/main.qml 3360201
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> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127492/diff/
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> Testing
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> File Attachments
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> Screenshot_20160325_142736.png
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2016/03/25/06b2aafd-f05d-4140-933a-89fbc8ed7c5c__Screenshot_20160325_142736.png
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>
> Thanks,
>
> David Rosca
>
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <p style="margin-top: 0;">On March 25th, 2016, 7:24 p.m. UTC, <b>Thomas \
Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p> <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Two questions: 1. If there is only one device, are the \
comoboxes hidden (they should be)? 2. If I change the default device, are all streams \
automatically switched to that device?</p></pre> </blockquote>
<p>On March 25th, 2016, 7:30 p.m. UTC, <b>David Rosca</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><ol style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0 0 0 2em;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;"> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: normal;">Yes</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">No, it just sets the \
pulseaudio default sink/source. It is then used as fallback device (when stream's \
device disappears, it will move to default device) and probably also for new \
streams.</li> </ol>
<p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">I also plan to make the global shortcut to change/mute \
volume and osd to only work with default device.</p></pre> </blockquote>
</blockquote>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><ol style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0 0 0 2em;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
normal;"> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: normal;">Good</li> <li style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: normal;">A bit of a problem. Or \
rather, it means we have to re-think some things. The problem is that currently we \
make the more common scenario (just switching all audio to a different device) more \
complicated to do than the more advanced scenario (moving individual streams).</li> \
</ol> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">I know that in theory, PulseAudio should be smart \
enough to just switch all audio to a newly plugged-in or switched-on device, but from \
my own experience I can say that this automatism doesn't always work. So for example \
if I have my TV connected to HDMI, I want all audio to go through my speakers when \
the TV is off. When I switch the TV on, though, it's more likely that I just want all \
audio to go through it instead of having to switch individual streams. Switching \
individual streams is a nice feature, but only useful for rather advanced setups. So \
we should keep it, but we need a way to move all output to a different device \
easier.</p></pre> <br />
<p>- Thomas</p>
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<p>On March 25th, 2016, 4:48 p.m. UTC, David Rosca wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.</div>
<div>By David Rosca.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated March 25, 2016, 4:48 p.m.</i></p>
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<b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
plasma-pa
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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<pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Add combobox next to mute button with available \
devices.</p></pre> </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/DeviceComboBox.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SinkInputView.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/SourceOutputView.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamListItem.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(7f1d69e)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/StreamView.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(b08c87a)</span></li>
<li>src/kcm/package/contents/ui/main.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(3360201)</span></li>
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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127492/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>
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