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Subject:    Re: Review Request 121772: Fade panels when dashboard is shown
From:       "Aleix Pol Gonzalez" <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date:       2014-12-31 12:04:39
Message-ID: 20141231120439.18352.84768 () probe ! kde ! org
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> On Dec. 31, 2014, 11:29 a.m., Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> > The more we (the VDG) think and learn about this, the more we realize that we \
> > haven't really thought it through yet. It looks like it's "back to the drawing \
> > board" here, as we don't want to make a change that makes as many users unhappy \
> > as it makes users happy. 
> > The whole concept of the dashboard definitely needs to be improved, but just \
> > changing one thing while leaving the rest as it is won't help, so we'll get back \
> > to you guys when we have a real, thought-through plan.
> 
> Aleix Pol Gonzalez wrote:
> Yes, I had a conversation about that yesterday as well. I think it would be very \
> healthy if the usability/vdg thought about the dashboard and plasma interaction in \
> general. 
> Thomas Pfeiffer wrote:
> Yes, it would, and we're on it. Stay tuned for an official announcement once we've \
> figured out our approach to this (I expect this to be a rather big effort if we're \
> going to do it right).

Shameless plug. Plasma sprint coming up, great place to discuss rather big efforts: \
https://sprints.kde.org/sprint/260


- Aleix


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On Dec. 31, 2014, 10:01 a.m., Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:
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> (Updated Dec. 31, 2014, 10:01 a.m.)
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> 
> Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.
> 
> 
> Bugs: 342123
> https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342123
> 
> 
> Repository: plasma-desktop
> 
> 
> Description
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> 
> As suggested by the VDG.
> 
> 
> Diffs
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> 
> desktoppackage/contents/views/Panel.qml 04a8e0b 
> 
> Diff: https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121772/diff/
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> 
> Testing
> -------
> 
> Dashboard there, Panel faded; Dashboard gone, Panel there
> 
> 
> File Attachments
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> Dashboard with dim panel
> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/12/31/957bad71-2bfc-4451-b1dd-479d747f1a19__dashboardpanel2.jpg
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> 
> Thanks,
> 
> Kai Uwe Broulik
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <p style="margin-top: 0;">On December 31st, 2014, 11:29 a.m. UTC, <b>Thomas \
Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>  <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">The more we (the VDG) think and learn about this, the \
more we realize that we haven't really thought it through yet. It looks like it's \
"back to the drawing board" here, as we don't want to make a change that makes as \
many users unhappy as it makes users happy.</p> <p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: \
inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">The whole concept of \
the dashboard definitely needs to be improved, but just changing one thing while \
leaving the rest as it is won't help, so we'll get back to you guys when we have a \
real, thought-through plan.</p></pre>  </blockquote>




 <p>On December 31st, 2014, 11:43 a.m. UTC, <b>Aleix Pol Gonzalez</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Yes, \
I had a conversation about that yesterday as well. I think it would be very healthy \
if the usability/vdg thought about the dashboard and plasma interaction in \
general.</p></pre>  </blockquote>





 <p>On December 31st, 2014, noon UTC, <b>Thomas Pfeiffer</b> wrote:</p>
 <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;">  <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: inherit;">Yes, \
it would, and we're on it. Stay tuned for an official announcement once we've figured \
out our approach to this (I expect this to be a rather big effort if we're going to \
do it right).</p></pre>  </blockquote>








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<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;"><p style="padding: \
0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: inherit;white-space: \
inherit;">Shameless plug. Plasma sprint coming up, great place to discuss rather big \
efforts: https://sprints.kde.org/sprint/260</p></pre> <br />










<p>- Aleix</p>


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<p>On December 31st, 2014, 10:01 a.m. UTC, Kai Uwe Broulik wrote:</p>









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<div>Review request for Plasma and KDE Usability.</div>
<div>By Kai Uwe Broulik.</div>


<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated Dec. 31, 2014, 10:01 a.m.</i></p>







<div style="margin-top: 1.5em;">
 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Bugs: </b>


 <a href="https://bugs.kde.org/show_bug.cgi?id=342123">342123</a>


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<div style="margin-top: 1.5em;">
 <b style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt;">Repository: </b>
plasma-desktop
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">As suggested by the VDG.</p></pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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   <pre style="margin: 0; padding: 0; white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;"><p style="padding: 0;text-rendering: inherit;margin: 0;line-height: \
inherit;white-space: inherit;">Dashboard there, Panel faded; Dashboard gone, Panel \
there</p></pre>  </td>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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 <li>desktoppackage/contents/views/Panel.qml <span style="color: \
grey">(04a8e0b)</span></li>

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<p><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/121772/diff/" style="margin-left: \
3em;">View Diff</a></p>



<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">File Attachments \
</h1>


 <li><a href="https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/media/uploaded/files/2014/12/31/957bad71-2bfc-4451-b1dd-479d747f1a19__dashboardpanel2.jpg">Dashboard \
with dim panel</a></li>

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