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List:       kde-panel-devel
Subject:    Re: Team meeting today
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2012-06-20 13:50:44
Message-ID: 8660507.eVUUk8PsGX () freedom
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On Wednesday, June 20, 2012 14:12:48 Anne-Marie Mahfouf wrote:
> I think I might be one of the targets on why this IRC meeting is

no one is a target at this, or any other, plasma meeting. it's not about 
rooting out blame or villianizing anyone. rather we're going to try and re-find 
our set of common ground rules for working with each other, starting with what 
we're wanting to personally achieve when working on this project and going 
from there.

> procedure. Nobody ever read my answers and everyone just carried on with
> his false perception. I feel pretty upset that an action done as annma =
> member of the plasma team (or so I thought) is interpreted as a QA Team
> action and generalized.

i read your answers and i am clear on whether the action was one that you took 
or that the QA team took. it really does not matter which it was, at least not 
to me, which is why i didn't address that issue directly but tried to remain 
focused on the issue of commit reversions and, as a separate though related 
issue, removal requests. who does it is neither here nor there; what matters 
is that we have consensus on how to do these things .. this is something we 
had at one point in our team but which has evidently been lost to some degree 
as the team has recently grown.

> The call for an IRC meeting mail starts with
> "it has become apparent that we need to do something here about the
> attitude demonstrated by some of those who have chosen to participate in
> plasma."
> in which I would have liked the "some of those" specifically nominated
> and mailing list mails quoted in order to clear what this is all about.

ime, when you start singling people out by name it becomes even more 
uncomfortable and unfair for pretty much everyone involved. what matters is 
that we have some issues that we can only work through _together_.

> Is my reverted commit a cause of this meeting? is it because other
> developers questioned some design decisions like having the remaining
> time displayed on the battery icon?

this and several other events in the last 4-6 weeks. it also has not been just 
the actions themselves, but the way in which those actions were undertaken.

this is all going to be covered during the meeting .. 

-- 
Aaron J. Seigo
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