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Subject: Re: Review Request: Preconfigurable plasmoids
From: "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date: 2011-05-05 7:46:21
Message-ID: 20110505074621.5283.1667 () vidsolbach ! de
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> On April 28, 2011, 9:19 p.m., Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > an interesting idea, but the configuration values should not appear in the \
> > metadata.desktop file. it not only bloats up the # of keys we have, it doesn't \
> > scale to plasmoids with more/different configuration.
> > i think this would make more sense as a .desktop + a KConfigGroup (could even be \
> > in the same file?) that holds the complete default configuration that is then \
> > copied over after the applet is created.
>
> David Palacio wrote:
> I am making a DBusLauncher base plasmoid to see how far this can get. It faces one \
> issue so far: How to make some entries in the [Configuration] group translatable? \
> (provided by the configuration desktop file). Some data should be translated (as \
> user facing strings) and some other must not be translated (as resources \
> identifiers).
> David Palacio wrote:
> (Note to self, this is not a chatroom)
>
> In Techbase an article describes a way to extract the wanted messages:
> http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/i18n_Build_Systems#Translating_.desktop_Files
>
> Also, KLocale seems to be the way to get the translated strings, if they exist in \
> the language of interest.
> Is there a better method?
yes, as long as the string has been translated, then in the code you can pass the \
QString to i18n and it will do its magic. the trick is that the translatable strings \
need to go into a translation (po) file, as noted in the link you provided from \
techbase.
my first question, however, is "what strings in the configuration need to be \
translated?"
- Aaron J.
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On May 4, 2011, 12:52 a.m., David Palacio wrote:
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> (Updated May 4, 2011, 12:52 a.m.)
>
>
> Review request for Plasma.
>
>
> Summary
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>
> There is some code duplication in that some plasmoids share very much of program \
> logic but actually differ in just a setting. E.g. the recently made \
> ShowActivityManager plasmoid, which just is a DBus call launcher. The Icon plasmoid \
> is an example of this made right. I'd like to have more generic plasmoids. Even \
> better, I'd like to have an easy way to configure them. \
>
> Let's see the code. config.patch shows a way to load a config metadata file and \
> fill a designated plasmoid with the configuration data (metadata.desktop). We \
> search for a X-Plasma-ConfigApplet property that defines the plasmoid to configure \
> and load. Additional properties define the plasmoid settings. This allows us, for \
> example, to easily provide access to any webservice without code duplication. \
>
>
> Diffs
> -----
>
> plasma/data/servicetypes/plasma-applet.desktop 8fabddb
> plasma/pluginloader.cpp 43a5b7c
> plasma/tests/CMakeLists.txt 1d04aa5
> plasma/tests/plasmoidconfigtest.h PRE-CREATION
> plasma/tests/plasmoidconfigtest.cpp PRE-CREATION
>
> Diff: http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101251/diff
>
>
> Testing
> -------
>
> Loading of plasmoids works.
>
> Testcase: Install these widgets:
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Label?content=99881
> http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=141270
>
> Add configlabel to desktop.
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> David
>
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<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <p style="margin-top: 0;">On April 28th, 2011, 9:19 p.m., <b>Aaron J. \
Seigo</b> wrote:</p> <blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid \
#d0d0d0; padding-left: 10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: \
-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">an interesting idea, but the configuration values should not appear in \
the metadata.desktop file. it not only bloats up the # of keys we have, it \
doesn't scale to plasmoids with more/different configuration.
i think this would make more sense as a .desktop + a KConfigGroup (could even be in \
the same file?) that holds the complete default configuration that is then copied \
over after the applet is created.</pre> </blockquote>
<p>On May 5th, 2011, 2:04 a.m., <b>David Palacio</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">I am making a \
DBusLauncher base plasmoid to see how far this can get. It faces one issue so far: \
How to make some entries in the [Configuration] group translatable? (provided by the \
configuration desktop file). Some data should be translated (as user facing strings) \
and some other must not be translated (as resources identifiers).</pre> \
</blockquote>
<p>On May 5th, 2011, 2:22 a.m., <b>David Palacio</b> wrote:</p>
<blockquote style="margin-left: 1em; border-left: 2px solid #d0d0d0; padding-left: \
10px;"> <pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">(Note to self, this is \
not a chatroom)
In Techbase an article describes a way to extract the wanted messages:
http://techbase.kde.org/Development/Tutorials/Localization/i18n_Build_Systems#Translating_.desktop_Files
Also, KLocale seems to be the way to get the translated strings, if they exist in the \
language of interest.
Is there a better method?</pre>
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</blockquote>
<pre style="white-space: pre-wrap; white-space: -moz-pre-wrap; white-space: \
-pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: break-word;">yes, as long as the \
string has been translated, then in the code you can pass the QString to i18n and it \
will do its magic. the trick is that the translatable strings need to go into a \
translation (po) file, as noted in the link you provided from techbase.
my first question, however, is "what strings in the configuration need to be \
translated?"</pre> <br />
<p>- Aaron J.</p>
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<p>On May 4th, 2011, 12:52 a.m., David Palacio wrote:</p>
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<div>Review request for Plasma.</div>
<div>By David Palacio.</div>
<p style="color: grey;"><i>Updated May 4, 2011, 12:52 a.m.</i></p>
<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Description </h1>
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-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">There is some code duplication in that some plasmoids share very much of \
program logic but actually differ in just a setting. E.g. the recently made \
ShowActivityManager plasmoid, which just is a DBus call launcher. The Icon plasmoid \
is an example of this made right. I'd like to have more generic plasmoids. Even \
better, I'd like to have an easy way to configure them. \
Let's see the code. config.patch shows a way to load a config metadata file and \
fill a designated plasmoid with the configuration data (metadata.desktop). We search \
for a X-Plasma-ConfigApplet property that defines the plasmoid to configure and load. \
Additional properties define the plasmoid settings. This allows us, for example, to \
easily provide access to any webservice without code duplication. \
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Testing </h1>
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-moz-pre-wrap; white-space: -pre-wrap; white-space: -o-pre-wrap; word-wrap: \
break-word;">Loading of plasmoids works.
Testcase: Install these widgets:
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php/Label?content=99881
http://kde-look.org/content/show.php?content=141270
Add configlabel to desktop.</pre>
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<h1 style="color: #575012; font-size: 10pt; margin-top: 1.5em;">Diffs</b> </h1>
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<li>plasma/data/servicetypes/plasma-applet.desktop <span style="color: \
grey">(8fabddb)</span></li>
<li>plasma/pluginloader.cpp <span style="color: grey">(43a5b7c)</span></li>
<li>plasma/tests/CMakeLists.txt <span style="color: grey">(1d04aa5)</span></li>
<li>plasma/tests/plasmoidconfigtest.h <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
<li>plasma/tests/plasmoidconfigtest.cpp <span style="color: \
grey">(PRE-CREATION)</span></li>
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<p><a href="http://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/101251/diff/" style="margin-left: \
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