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List:       kde-multimedia
Subject:    Re: State of the Noatun
From:       Charles Samuels <charles () kde ! org>
Date:       2000-12-01 20:28:39
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On fredag 01 desember 2000, 03:14 am, Neil Stevens wrote:
> On Thursday 30 November 2000 07:55 pm, Charles Samuels wrote:
> > KDE 2.1 is approaching, and with it Noatun may (I say "may" because I
> > havn't heard anything official)
> >
> > I'm blatantly stealing some of Neil and Antonio's comments (less
> > talking, more coding :)
> >
> > Left to be done for a KDE2.1 release
> >
> > 1) support kaiman skins in noatun
> > 2) Session Management in the UI plugins
> > 3) Starting artsd when unavailable on startup, and restarting artsd if
> > it should disappear while Noatun is running (maybe even during
> > playback). Or, at least an informative error message, instead of a
> > crash, when problems occur.
>
> The freeze is on Monday, right?  I'd say that if items 1 and 3 can be done
> this weekend, Noatun would be ready for kdemultimedia.
Already? wow!

>
> This weekend I can hack in some Session Management for 2.1, with the
> caveat that it will probably need to be re-thought for 2.2.  All that is
> really needed, in my view, is Noatun to manage some cooperation with the
> session manager, and re-start when saved in a session.  The playlist's
> save state should make things good enough for 2.1.
I just insist that the user interfaces shouldn't be changed for this

>
> > KDE2.2 features:
> > 1) configuration of the effects
> > 2) konqueror kpart UI (the next thing people will expect on a
> > double-click)
> > 3) User selection of Arts::PlayObject when more than one
> > supports a given file (for when an SMPEG PlayObject is written, for
> > example)
>
> I buy that these can wait for 2.2, as our benchmark for Noatun's readiness
> should be the state of Kaiman in 2.0, and unless I'm mistaken, Kaiman
> doesn't do any of these things either.
>
> Honestly, what's going to be more important to people is improved
> performance in the artsd and mpeglib side of things.  Well, that and
> Winamp skins, if I judge the audience correctly.
>
> > About the configuration of effects: ugh :)  I'll procrastinate it as
> > much as possible.
>
> Well, while mime-types seem broken right now, effects no longer crash for
mime is broken?  Other than mpeglib having the wrong mime-types, noatun does 
it's own stuff right.

> me!  Loading 3 copies Extra Stereo is a strange experience.  I just have
Fun isn't it? :)  I added an "Voice Removal" one which will remove everything 
_but_ the voice in certain songs :)

> to add a Close and Help button to the bottom of the Effects View, and
> temporarily hide the ? buttons, and I'd say that effects are ready for a
> release.
I used whatsthis a lot in that dialog, and no documentation is availible for 
noatun as of now anyway.

I think most of the arrow buttons don't work don't work in that window yet.

-Charles


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