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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: What KDE needs at this point...
From:       Steve Hunt <theshunt () crosswinds ! net>
Date:       2001-05-31 10:57:32
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Geez, I'm not thinking this early.  What I was talking about (trying) was 
icons.  I'm pretty tired.  Sorry.

On Thursday 31 May 2001 08:48 am, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> On Thursday 31 May 2001 12:33, Steve Hunt wrote:
> > Personally, I think that GNOME running Nautlilus has the nicest looking
> > fonts.  KDE 1 also had nice looking fonts.  They weren't fancy, but they
> > all were clean, simple, and consistant.
>
> Heh, sorry but afaik nautilus does not come with any fonts. They only use
> what is already installed on your system. By default they show fonts in
> nautilus antialiased by using freetype. So in terms of appearance it
> shouldn't look different from what you get when enabling antialiasing in
> KDE (because it uses freetype, too).
> The way nautilus shows AA-fonts is a lot slower compared to using the
> RENDER-extension in Xfree (which KDE does).
>
> AFAIK KDE 1 didn't use different fonts from the ones KDE 2 is using now.
>
> Greetings,
> Tackat
>
> > On Thursday 31 May 2001 07:53 am, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> > > On Thursday 31 May 2001 04:44, Jim Doen wrote:
> > > > Fonts, Color-Schemes, Icons, Backgrounds
> > > > ========================================
> > > >
> > > > After installing the latest KDE tonight, I say that KDE needs an
> > > > incredible graphics artist(s) to develop icons and backgrounds for
> > > > its default look.
> > >
> > > We are always happy to receive your artwork or an additional graphics
> > > artist  payed / provided by you :-)
> > >
> > > > The lastest KDE is great -- however, it needs be more polished and
> > > > professional-looking-- with better icons, fonts, backgrounds, and
> > > > color-schemes.
> > >
> > > We are perfectionists so we agree on that statement. The
> > > kde-artist-team is always trying to improve the look of KDE.
> > >
> > > > As much as I don't care for Macs, they are probably the best when it
> > > > comes to color-selection, fonts, icons, and a overall professional
> > > > look....
> > > >
> > > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/theater/finder.html
> > >
> > > Well, using MacOS X you can assume a lot of things you don't
> > > have necessarily available on Linux, like alphablending, antialiasing,
> > > good fonts and a lot of other stuff.
> > > Therefore KDE comes preconfigured with a default look that matches
> > > close to the lowest denominator which means: no alphablending,
> > > no antialiasing and 32x32-icons.
> > > MacOS X for example uses larger icons with alphablending.
> > > You can do this in KDE as well and you'll get better results:
> > >
> > > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/default32.png
> > > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/default48.png
> > >
> > > With even bigger icons it looks even more fancy ;)
> > >
> > > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/groesser.png
> > > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/greatkonq.png
> > > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/greatkonq2.png
> > >
> > > Creating good fonts is a matter of spending a really huge amount of
> > > money because noone will create a set of fonts for you of the quality
> > > of the MS-Webfonts for free (not to mention that they have become a
> > > quasi-standard and that one would have to create something very similar
> > > ...)
> > >
> > > Of course MacOS X-icons still might look a bit more professional to you
> > > because they look photorealistic. KDE-icons on the other hand tend to
> > > look more 2D-shaped which we consider to be better in terms of
> > > usability. Also there are other issues which make using photorealistic
> > > icons something we don't really want.
> > >
> > > > At any rate, KDE needs cleaner/nicer icons, fonts, backgrounds, and
> > > > colors-schemes for its default look (since more users leave
> > > > everything set to default).
> > >
> > > We'll probably have multiple "default-looks" for KDE 2.2.
> > > And the user will very easily be able to adjust the amount of eyecandy
> > > according to his needs / hardware. We are working on the issues you
> > > have mentioned and I guess you will be much more pleased with the
> > > results in KDE 2.2.
> > >
> > > > KDE update component
> > > > ====================
> > > >
> > > > Make it easy to update to the latest and greatest KDE.
> > >
> > > If your distributor doesn't offer you a proper way to upgrade your
> > > software then you might want to consider trying a different
> > > distribution.
> > >
> > > Greetings,
> > > Tackat
> > >
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