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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: What KDE needs at this point...
From:       Torsten Rahn <torsten () kde ! org>
Date:       2001-05-31 10:45:55
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On Thursday 31 May 2001 12:33, Steve Hunt wrote:
> Personally, I think that GNOME running Nautlilus has the nicest looking
> fonts.  KDE 1 also had nice looking fonts.  They weren't fancy, but they
> all were clean, simple, and consistant.

Heh, sorry but afaik nautilus does not come with any fonts. They only use 
what is already installed on your system. By default they show fonts in 
nautilus antialiased by using freetype. So in terms of appearance it
shouldn't look different from what you get when enabling antialiasing in KDE
(because it uses freetype, too).
The way nautilus shows AA-fonts is a lot slower compared to using the 
RENDER-extension in Xfree (which KDE does).

AFAIK KDE 1 didn't use different fonts from the ones KDE 2 is using now.

Greetings,
Tackat

> On Thursday 31 May 2001 07:53 am, Torsten Rahn wrote:
> > On Thursday 31 May 2001 04:44, Jim Doen wrote:
> > > Fonts, Color-Schemes, Icons, Backgrounds
> > > ========================================
> > >
> > > After installing the latest KDE tonight, I say that KDE needs an
> > > incredible graphics artist(s) to develop icons and backgrounds for its
> > > default look.
> >
> > We are always happy to receive your artwork or an additional graphics
> > artist  payed / provided by you :-)
> >
> > > The lastest KDE is great -- however, it needs be more polished and
> > > professional-looking-- with better icons, fonts, backgrounds, and
> > > color-schemes.
> >
> > We are perfectionists so we agree on that statement. The kde-artist-team
> > is always trying to improve the look of KDE.
> >
> > > As much as I don't care for Macs, they are probably the best when it
> > > comes to color-selection, fonts, icons, and a overall professional
> > > look....
> > >
> > > http://www.apple.com/macosx/theater/finder.html
> >
> > Well, using MacOS X you can assume a lot of things you don't
> > have necessarily available on Linux, like alphablending, antialiasing,
> > good fonts and a lot of other stuff.
> > Therefore KDE comes preconfigured with a default look that matches
> > close to the lowest denominator which means: no alphablending,
> > no antialiasing and 32x32-icons.
> > MacOS X for example uses larger icons with alphablending.
> > You can do this in KDE as well and you'll get better results:
> >
> > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/default32.png
> > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/default48.png
> >
> > With even bigger icons it looks even more fancy ;)
> >
> > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/groesser.png
> > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/greatkonq.png
> > http://master.kde.org/~tackat/greatkonq2.png
> >
> > Creating good fonts is a matter of spending a really huge amount of money
> > because noone will create a set of fonts for you of the quality of the
> > MS-Webfonts for free (not to mention that they have become a
> > quasi-standard and that one would have to create something very similar
> > ...)
> >
> > Of course MacOS X-icons still might look a bit more professional to you
> > because they look photorealistic. KDE-icons on the other hand tend to
> > look more 2D-shaped which we consider to be better in terms of usability.
> > Also there are other issues which make using photorealistic icons
> > something we don't really want.
> >
> > > At any rate, KDE needs cleaner/nicer icons, fonts, backgrounds, and
> > > colors-schemes for its default look (since more users leave everything
> > > set to default).
> >
> > We'll probably have multiple "default-looks" for KDE 2.2.
> > And the user will very easily be able to adjust the amount of eyecandy
> > according to his needs / hardware. We are working on the issues you have
> > mentioned and I guess you will be much more pleased with the results in
> > KDE 2.2.
> >
> > > KDE update component
> > > ====================
> > >
> > > Make it easy to update to the latest and greatest KDE.
> >
> > If your distributor doesn't offer you a proper way to upgrade your
> > software then you might want to consider trying a different distribution.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Tackat
> >
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