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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: Floating toolbar new option
From:       "Mark E. DeYoung" <Mark-E-DeYoung () worldnet ! att ! net>
Date:       1998-03-27 15:14:20
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Jonas Sundström wrote:
> 
> Mark E. DeYoung <Mark-E-DeYoung@worldnet.att.net> wrote:
> 
> >Vitaliy Pilipiv wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi!
 
> This sounds just like the MacOS menu-bar... *:)..
> (If I was a MacOS hardcore guy - would I be here?)
> The MacOS menubar stays at the top of the screen,
> where the active app can sort of 'rent space' for it's menus.
> (This was great when screens were small. On a 19" screen you don't want to
> move up to the top of the screen every time you need the app-menu.)
> MacOS uses it for app-switching, preferences menu and plugins cant rent
> space too.
> 
> Perhaps, the K-bar (what is it called?) could be extended to hold (floating)
> menus as well. Or am I totally missunderstanding the issue?

I think you mean the kpanel here.

> Please define floating toolbar.

I mean the tear-away/floating menubars and toolbars that are in just
about everything descended from KTopLevel.  

> I think there are two different ideas here.
> First the windoze style toolbars that can be rearranged inside the
> application window.
> I really like that. It's great to be able to change the leyout of the
> application.

Yes this is a good feature that I hope works it's way into KToolBar.

> It's too bad you loose the changes every time you have to reinstall windows.
> These personal layout should be stored in a file, so that I could make
> backup
> of the layout only, if I want to.
> Second, floating windows, like the MacOS way of an application splattered
> over the screen in a zillion of windows. Photoshop (Mac) for example.
> There needs to be good window management, like the MacOS 'hide [application
> X]'
> (with all its windows) and 'hide the other applications', for this type &
> amount of floating toolbars to be bearable to live with.
> All of this is IMHO, of course.
> Perhaps these two 'types' of floating toolbars can be made the same way
> with the combined functionality.

You are kind of describing something that I would call subsession
management.  The ability to group a set of related windows (even from
different applications) and be able to perform operations on all of them
at the same time. Stuff like Save and restore the application groups
subsession status, raise or lower all windows in a particular
subsession.  Have a toolbar common to that subsession.  I can kind of
simulate this right  now by keeping related apps on a particular Desktop
but it would be nice if I could group the apps by subsession (maybe call
them Projects?).

Later,

Mark.
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