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List:       kde-look
Subject:    Re: "Next Link" icon.
From:       Dave Leigh <dave.leigh () cratchit ! org>
Date:       2002-04-29 21:42:26
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On Monday 29 April 2002 10:30, Steven D'Aprano wrote:
> On Mon, 29 Apr 2002 09:27, Dave Leigh wrote:
> > <weasel> this message is not meant in any way to negatively
> > characterize the above idea, or any particular idea stated on this or
> > any forum by any particular individual, especially if they happen to
> > read this e-mail. It's the ones who *don't* read this e-mail that I'm
> > talking about. ;) </weasel>
>
> <rant>
> Well it *should*, because quite frankly, half the posts to kde-look
> aren't about user interfaces at all, but just wish lists for some
> desired feature that might be handy for one or two people, or be useful
> once in a blue moon.

Yeah, I've noticed that, too, even when I contribute to OT threads by posting 
a reply (Does this count? Probably.)

Truth be told, I don't think there's that much WRONG with the KDE interface. 
I feel that that's the major reason this list has been relatively lifeless 
since KDE2 came out. (There! I said "interface!" We're on topic again.) 
Though I try to keep my desktop reasonably up-to-date, my laptop is still 
running KDE 1.0, and there wasn't much wrong with that either. In fact, I'm 
pleasantly surprised at every upgrade. Most improvements I'm waiting for 
these days have less to do with useability than with stability in the area of 
KOffice (except that I'd STILL like to see a koshell-like binder for KDE-PIM)

> I'd like to remind people that one of the reasons Unix/Linux is so
> robust and usable, with far less of the bugs and much less of the bloat
> of Microsoft products, is that the Unix philosophy is of small, useful
> programs that are then piped together into useful tools?

Just for the record, I'd like to toss in a concurring opinion that not every 
solution is a job for the core KDE programmers, and not every solution for a 
KDE problem is limited to solving it IN KDE. As we saw earlier re: the media 
volume label, sometimes you don't need anything more than a script to do the 
job, even for something that would absolutely require low-level code on 
another platform. So long as KDE just remembers it's running on Unix, that's 
fine with me... I don't have to reach farther than Tcl or awk to do most of 
what I need to do).

> In my opinion, and I know this isn't a look-and-feel issue either so
> don't bother flaming me, what KDE needs is a good interface to the
> shell scripting languages (in effect a macro system) so that people can
> build their own plug-ins instead of trying to cram every imaginable
> feature, and then some, into the core of KDE.

AMEN!

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