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List:       kde-licensing
Subject:    Re: QT Designer _NOT_ under QPL.
From:       Kevin Forge <forge () myrealbox ! com>
Date:       2000-08-16 5:19:33
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Joseph Carter wrote:
> 
> How the hell did you get out of my killfile?  *grumble*

Isn't it rude to talk about someone while putting that person in a
kill file ?  Either action is fine by itself though but together it's
like inviting someone to your home just so you can toss him out.

tacky.

> So Debian is supposed to change its policies - policies which have been in
> effect long before KDE had even been thought of - for one little project
> which has essentially given the finger to anyone who dares question KDE's
> license compatibility?
> 
> Not likely to happen.  Certainly not likely for a single project.  We
> don't make exceptions like that.  We're not Red Hat.  When faced with the
> prospects of lost profits because they didn't include KDE since it was
> against their policies, they tucked tail and ran the first time they had
> an out and now make excuses and apologies to people who say they were
> counting on them to stick to their guns on the issue.  While I suspect at
> least half of them had no better reason than not liking what KDE is, there
> are still a great many who had genuine concerns about the code.

RedHat spoke to some lawyers and were told anyone who sued would have
no case.  Having Mandrake eat there lunch didn't hurt either.

> Nobody here is going to question Red Hat should they include Qt Designer.
> There is clearly and obviously no problem with doing so.  Debian has a
> policy problem with it though.  And we're not going to make an exception
> to the longstanding policy to please a few people who are just going to
> get it elsewhere anyway.

What bothers me is will you toss the whole thing ( like you did for 
kdelibs which has no license problems since it's not under the GPL ) 
or just Designer.  essentially extracting the offending code ( what you 
wouldn't do for KDE ).

To be consistent Debian needs to ditch QT and with it all QT dependent 
apps since you don't ship programs that can't run.  I.e. According to my 
understanding of Debian policy at this point LICQ is now in danger of 
getting kicked out of Debian.

Did I miss something ?

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