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List:       kde-licensing
Subject:    Re: Live and let live
From:       Alex <garbanzo () hooked ! net>
Date:       1998-10-10 19:03:51
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On Sat, 10 Oct 1998, Martin Schulze wrote:
[....]
> I'm very sorry, but it is a general attitude of some core KDE developers
> to not even try to look what others are doing but spreading junk around.
> 
> A KDE developer contacted Debian telling them that kdelibs is distributed
> under a different license.  As a result this is being discussed right now
> so if the kdelibs maintainer (who is also a core KDE developer) feels the
> same he can re-upload the package and if there are no other problems it
> can go back.  Your childish rant doesn't help anybody.  You should better
> *try* to understand what others think.  There is always a tiny little
> chance that oneself is not God and thus does make mistake and misunderstands
> phrases.
> 
> As a reference and to prove that I'm not talking shit take a look at
> http://www.debian.org/Lists-Archives/debian-devel-9810/msg00693.html

Yes, I went there.  I looked.  I saw nothing from a KDE "core developer".
In fact what I did see was a message from wakkerma@debian.org asking if
kdelibs could be put _back_ in contrib.  Correct me if I'm wrong but this
represents not a KDE "core developer" but a Debianite.

Perhaps I haven't been paying attention much, but it looks like Wichert
doesn't even have CVS access to cvs.kde.org.

FWIW, as of now the components of kdelibs are released under LGPL, GPL, or
a BSD style license.

> Debian has stated *several times* "fix your licences and KDE can come back.
> The only thing that does NOT help with regard to this issue is ignorance
> and arrogance at the KDE side.

To me this seems like arrogance on the part of Debian.  "We're Debian and
we want to bully you into changing your license to suit our ideals".

Step one to a more productive life:
	* Take head out of ass

- alex

P.S. If it wasn't clear, just so you can't misquote me: I REPRESENT ME,
not KDE, not anyone else.

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