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Subject:    [Differential] [Commented On] D4023: kformat: Make it possible to properly translate relative days o
From:       Albert Astals Cid <noreply () phabricator ! kde ! org>
Date:       2017-01-14 23:11:04
Message-ID: 20170114231104.11230.98152.3550A384 () phabricator ! kde ! org
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  In https://phabricator.kde.org/D4023#76899, @mpyne wrote:
  
  > In https://phabricator.kde.org/D4023#76891, @aacid wrote:
  >
  > > I find the comments misleading (maybe because i'm not english native) but
  > >
  > >   if (daysTo < -1) {
  > >         switch (date.dayOfWeek()) {
  > >         case 1:
  > >             return tr("Last Monday",    "day in the previous week");
  > >         case 2:
  > >   
  > >
  > > Why does it have to be the previous week? If today is Wednesday and the date \
we're referring to is Monday, daysTo will be -2 and it will still be the current week \
and not the previous, no?  > >
  > > else if (daysTo > 1) {
  > >
  > >   switch (date.dayOfWeek()) {
  > >   case 4:
  > >       return tr("Next Thursday",  "day in the week after this");
  > >   
  > >
  > > If today is Monday and the date we're referring to is Thursday, daysTo will be \
3 and it's not "the week after this" it's "this week".  > >
  > > Or am i understanding something wrong?
  >
  >
  > You're right.  What's a better phrasing? Or, is the context even necessary for \
translators here?  
  
  I'd say let's go with context, or maybe even better english (or more codepaths?)
  
  Can you as a native speaker confirm this theory i've heard?
  
  If we are on "Monday 16", "Next Wednesday" means "Wednesday 25" if you want \
"Wednesday 18" you should say "This Wednesday"  
  > Maybe something like "the most recent such day before today" and "the next such \
day after today"?

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          padding-bottom: 4px;">In <a href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D4023#76891" \
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          color: black;text-decoration: none;" rel="noreferrer">D4023#76891</a>, <a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/p/aacid/" style="  border-color: #f1f7ff;
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<div style="margin: 0;
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          color: rgb(107, 116, 140);"><p>I find the comments misleading (maybe \
because i&#039;m not english native) but</p>

<div class="remarkup-code-block" style="margin: 12px 0;" data-code-lang="text" \
data-sigil="remarkup-code-block"><pre class="remarkup-code" style="font: 11px/15px \
&quot;Menlo&quot;, &quot;Consolas&quot;, &quot;Monaco&quot;, monospace; padding: \
12px; margin: 0; background: rgba(71, 87, 120, 0.08);">if (daysTo &lt; -1) {  switch \
(date.dayOfWeek()) {  case 1:
          return tr(&quot;Last Monday&quot;,    &quot;day in the previous \
week&quot;);  case 2:</pre></div>

<p>Why does it have to be the previous week? If today is Wednesday and the date \
we&#039;re referring to is Monday, daysTo will be -2 and it will still be the current \
week and not the previous, no?</p>

<p>else if (daysTo &gt; 1) {</p>

<div class="remarkup-code-block" style="margin: 12px 0;" data-code-lang="text" \
data-sigil="remarkup-code-block"><pre class="remarkup-code" style="font: 11px/15px \
&quot;Menlo&quot;, &quot;Consolas&quot;, &quot;Monaco&quot;, monospace; padding: \
12px; margin: 0; background: rgba(71, 87, 120, 0.08);">switch (date.dayOfWeek()) { \
case 4:  return tr(&quot;Next Thursday&quot;,  &quot;day in the week after \
this&quot;);</pre></div>

<p>If today is Monday and the date we&#039;re referring to is Thursday, daysTo will \
be 3 and it&#039;s not &quot;the week after this&quot; it&#039;s &quot;this \
week&quot;.</p>

<p>Or am i understanding something wrong?</p></div>
</blockquote>

<p>You&#039;re right.  What&#039;s a better phrasing? Or, is the context even \
necessary for translators here?</p></div> </blockquote>

<p>I&#039;d say let&#039;s go with context, or maybe even better english (or more \
codepaths?)</p>

<p>Can you as a native speaker confirm this theory i&#039;ve heard?</p>

<p>If we are on &quot;Monday 16&quot;, &quot;Next Wednesday&quot; means \
&quot;Wednesday 25&quot; if you want &quot;Wednesday 18&quot; you should say \
&quot;This Wednesday&quot;</p>

<blockquote style="border-left: 3px solid #a7b5bf; color: #464c5c; font-style: \
italic; margin: 4px 0 12px 0; padding: 4px 12px; background-color: #f8f9fc;"><p>Maybe \
something like &quot;the most recent such day before today&quot; and &quot;the next \
such day after today&quot;?</p></blockquote>

</div></div><br /><div><strong>REPOSITORY</strong><div><div>R244 \
KCoreAddons</div></div></div><br /><div><strong>REVISION DETAIL</strong><div><a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/D4023" \
rel="noreferrer">https://phabricator.kde.org/D4023</a></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>EMAIL PREFERENCES</strong><div><a \
href="https://phabricator.kde.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/" \
rel="noreferrer">https://phabricator.kde.org/settings/panel/emailpreferences/</a></div></div><br \
/><div><strong>To: </strong>mpyne, Frameworks, kde-i18n-doc, aspotashev, aacid<br \
/><strong>Cc: </strong>aacid<br /></div>



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