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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Re: Directory -> Folder in Crusader
From:       Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzer () kde ! org>
Date:       2016-05-07 22:37:52
Message-ID: b9ff29c954045ba1432e770b415e8f0e () posteo ! de
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Am 06.05.2016 09:43 schrieb Vít Pelčák:
> OK then. No problem for me.
> 
> Is there no change planned then? Just to be sure that I can start
> translating changes.

Not from my side, no.

Regards,
Frederik


> čt 5. 5. 2016 v 19:07 odesílatel Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzer@kde.org>
> napsal:
> 
>> Am 05.05.2016 16:33 schrieb Vít Pelčák:
>> > Well, I'm just bringing this up as I thought it is not appropriate
>> > change.
>> 
>> Bringing up concerns is totally fine. I was not sure about the rules
>> either but then with Burkhard's link I thought it was OK.
>> 
>> 
>> > How do you plan to deal with translation like:
>> >
>> > When checked, whenever the panel is changed (for example, by pressing
>> > Tab),
>> > Krusader changes the current folder in the terminal emulator.
>> >
>> > ? It is in CLI.
>> 
>> I did not make the rule, I do not know any specifics about it and I do
>> not have answers to every corner case.
>> Even in Dolphin there are two "directories". One is clearly meant to 
>> be
>> a folder but the other one is a command line option. So how should 
>> that
>> be handled? You can tell Dolphin on startup, which "directories" to
>> select after startup. ... But then after startup, "folders" are
>> selected. Magic! :D
>> https://git.reviewboard.kde.org/r/127846/diff/1
>> 
>> So applications where GUI interacts with CLI are clearly a corner case
>> and my intention in changing the strings in Krusader was only to make
>> them correspond to Dolphin's wording.
>> 
>> As a translator, I do not have a problem in this case, because in the
>> German translation we decided to not distinguish folders and 
>> directories
>> for file system stuff.
>> 
>> Regards,
>> Frederik
>> 
>> 
>> > čt 5. 5. 2016 v 12:53 odesílatel Frederik Schwarzer <schwarzer@kde.org>
>> > napsal:
>> >
>> >> Am 04.05.2016 00:19 schrieb Albert Astals Cid:
>> >> > El dimarts, 3 de maig de 2016, a les 18:32:41 CEST, Frederik Schwarzer
>> >> > va
>> >> > escriure:
>> >> >> Am 03.05.2016 10:32 schrieb Burkhard Lück:
>> >> >> > Am Montag, 2. Mai 2016, 23:37:00 CEST schrieb Frederik Schwarzer:
>> >> >> >> Am 02.05.2016 16:15 schrieb Vít Pelčák:
>> >> >> >> > I see that there has been a change Directory -> Folder in
>> Crusader.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > I believe this goes against rules we have active.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > General approach is:
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Directory - when real directories are meant (command is ran in
>> >> >> >> > directory
>> >> >> >> > ...) - typically used for low level tools and file managers.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Folder - meant for VFS - You can have loadsof virtual folders
>> >> which do
>> >> >> >> > not
>> >> >> >> > have to be equivalent to real directory - mail folders, various
>> >> >> >> > usability
>> >> >> >> > folders ...
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > Therefore I believe that this change goes against this rule and
>> >> >> >> > Krusader as
>> >> >> >> > file manager should use Directory, instead of Folder.
>> >> >> >> >
>> >> >> >> > What do you guys think?
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> I did this change because I thought, "directories" were for
>> directoy
>> >> >> >> services like LDAP stuff and "folders" were for usual operating
>> >> system
>> >> >> >> stuff. Dolphin uses "folders" at least, that's why I changed
>> >> Krusader.
>> >> >> >>
>> >> >> >> Do we have rules written down for this somewhere?
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> >
>> >>
>> http://ebn.kde.org/sanitizer/reports/extragear/utils/kdesrc-build/index.ht
>> >> >> > ml says for example:
>> >> >> >
>> >> >> > "Prefer 'folder' over 'directory'. (Only use 'directory' for CLI)"
>> >> >>
>> >> >> Thanks for digging that up.
>> >> >
>> >> > Will someone fix the code then please?
>> >>
>> >> Not sure what to fix. The change in Krusader seems justified and the
>> >> link Burkhard dug up was for kdesrc-build, so the CLI bit steps in
>> >> there.
>> >>
>> >> Regards,
>> >> Frederik
>> >>
>> 
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