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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Re: Minimum translation percentage for Plasma 5 release
From:       Pino Toscano <toscano.pino () tiscali ! it>
Date:       2014-08-12 11:01:37
Message-ID: 2152909.vnu9OJA87l () dhcp130-204 ! brq ! redhat ! com
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On Tuesday 12 August 2014 12:55:13 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> El Dimarts, 12 d'agost de 2014, a les 12:44:32, Pino Toscano va 
escriure:
> > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 12:13:01 Albert Astals Cid wrote:
> > > El Dimarts, 12 d'agost de 2014, a les 11:39:49, Pino Toscano va
> > 
> > escriure:
> > > > Hi,
> > > > 
> > > > On Tuesday 12 August 2014 11:56:40 Māris Nartišs wrote:
> > > > > Keep in mind the motivating factor. I joined KDE, QGIS and
> > > > > GRASS
> > > > > GIS
> > > > > translation efforts because the shipped translations were
> > > > > incomplete,
> > > > > imperfect or even bogus.
> > > > 
> > > > Please do keep in mind most of our final users are not skilled
> > > > in
> > > > English, nor want/can contribute, and so on. For them, a
> > > > incomplete
> > > > (or low quality as well) translation can just produce the result
> > > > of
> > > > making them stop using the application/desktop environment
> > > > altogether, possibly giving a bad advertising because "KThisApp
> > > > is
> > > > totally funny/crap in my language" (and yes, I've seen over the
> > > > past years example of both users not using something because of
> > > > incomplete/bad translations, and of bad advertising).
> > > 
> > > I'm confused here, you first argue that "most of our final users
> > > are
> > > not skilled in English" but then you seem to argue for requiring a
> > > high percentage of translations,
> > 
> > Correct.
> > 
> > > which means we're leaving those out
> > > in the cold when possibly/maybe at 15% or 25% they would have
> > > enough
> > > translations to get the basics translated and to guess the rest.
> > 
> > And how 15% implies that the basics are translated? Yes, you said
> > "possibly/maybe", which means that such low percentage has the same
> > probability to be useful strings than just error messages or
> > uncommon
> > strings.
> 
> It does not imply it, it does not imply against it either, so using it
> as limit seems arbitrary to me.

Unless we are talking about things like kgeography.po or kstars.po 
(which are done mostly with data translations), having a 70%/80% 
threshold means that it is really difficult to not have most of the 
interface/common parts translated.

15% can just be error messages or similar strings in most of the cases.

-- 
Pino Toscano
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