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Subject:    Re: Some tips to libindi strings in KStars translation catalog
From:       Marek Laane <bald () smail ! ee>
Date:       2012-10-16 23:16:04
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2012/10/16 Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor@ukr.net>

> написане Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:28:44 +0300, Marek Laane <bald@smail.ee>:
>
>
>  2012/10/14 Yuri Chornoivan <yurchor@ukr.net>
>>
>>  Hi,
>>>
>>> As you may noticed, KStars catalog now includes some basic GUI strings
>>> from libindi to have localized "INDI Control Panel".
>>>
>>>  [...]
>>
>>
>>>
>> Hope this helps.
>>
>>>
>>> Best regards,
>>> Yuri
>>>
>>>
>> Well, I've many, really many questions. Most are related to the fact I
>> have
>> no scope and have to use just simulators which probably do not have all
>> necessary strings. And another difficult problem is lack of commentars -
>> in
>> my language there are different forms for word when it is command/verb and
>> when it is a noun ... I just hope somebody could answer them :-)
>>
>> Count - where can one see it and what exactly does it mean?
>>
>> Diff.Eq - what is it? Even Google doesn't know (not it nor diffequatorial)
>>
>> Expose Abort - is it a command?
>>
>> Factory - what is it?
>>
>> Fan - is it, err, device for ventilation?
>>
>> Feed - what is it? Or rather, where can one see it and feed for what it
>> is?
>>
>> Filter Count - is it a number/count of filters?
>>
>> Find - is it a command?
>>
>> GPS Power - is it, i.e. "power" related to, err, electricity?
>>
>> Goto - I found GOTO but not Goto, so is it a command or what?
>>
>> Guide Abort - is it a command?
>>
>> Guide Head - what is it? Related to a guider?
>>
>> Guide Wheel - what is it? Related to a guider?
>>
>> Guide - what is it? A command?
>>
>> Halt - is it a command?
>>
>> High - for what is it used? Translation may be dependent of exact use.
>>
>> Library - what is it?
>>
>> Low - for what is it used+ Translation may be dependent of exact use.
>>
>> Mount coordinates - what does it mean?
>>
>> Mount init. - what does it mean?
>>
>> Park - that one I understand but it seems it is used both as noun and verb
>> (at least I see in my telescope simulator on Main control tab two "Park",
>> one as control and other one as button) which makes translation hard ...
>>
>> Position - where is it? Translation may be dependent of exact use.
>>
>> Power - what is it? Related to electricity?
>>
>> Saturation Mag - I didn't understand it
>>
>> Save home - is it a command? And what does "home" mean here?
>>
>> Seeing - for what is it?
>>
>> Set Register - is it a command? And what exactly is "register" here?
>>
>> Set home - is it a command? And what does "home" mean here?
>>
>> Set register - is it a command? And what exactly is "register" here?
>>
>> Sleep - is it a command? (There is "Wake up", so it may be but I'm not
>> sure
>> ...)
>>
>> Stream Off - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?
>>
>> Stream On - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?
>>
>> Transformation - what is it?
>>
>> Use Pulse Cmd - what does it mean?
>>
>> app. to refracted - what does it mean? ( I mean, "app" may mean "apparent"
>> but even then I don't understand)
>>
>> app., refr., tel., observed - what does it mean, or rather for what is it
>> used?
>>
>> app., refr., telescope - what does it mean, or rather for what is it used?
>>
>> danger - what is it?
>>
>> rel. to HA - I understand it is "relative to hourangle" but where is it
>> used?
>>
>>
>> Marek Laane,
>> Estonian translator
>>
>
> Hi,
>
> That's slightly more questions about telescopes than Krõll, the
> Naksitrallid, the Kunksmoor, and the Sipsik could even imagine altogether.
> ;) I'll try to answer.
>
>
Many, many thanks! Both for helping with hard to understand string and for
remembering famous heroes of Estonian tales :-)

Marek Laane


> ------------
>
> Diff. Eq.
>
> Comment in the code:
>
> Difference of the equatorial coordinates, used to estimate the applied
> corrections.
>
> -----------
>
>
> Expose Abort - is it a command?
>
> Yes. It is the command to abort the exposition.
>
> -------
>
>
> Factory - what is it?
>
> Default settings of the appliance, hardcoded by the manufacturer.
>
> ---------
>
>
> Fan - is it, err, device for ventilation?
>
> Yes. The string is for the fan status.
>
> ----------
>
>
> Feed - what is it? Or rather, where can one see it and feed for what it is?
>
> Blob for sending image
>
> -----------
>
>
> Filter Count - is it a number/count of filters?
>
> Yes.
>
> -----------
>
>
> Find - is it a command?
>
> It is a slew mode ("Slew", "Find", "Centering", "Guide")
>
> ------------
>
>
> GPS Power - is it, i.e. "power" related to, err, electricity?
>
> No. It's radiant flux of the signal.
>
> ------------
>
>
> Goto - I found GOTO but not Goto, so is it a command or what?
>
> It's a switch ("Goto", "Sync", "Track") to control Telescope behaviour
> when changing coordinates to the specified below on the page "Main control"
> ("On Set").
>
> -------------
>
>
> Guide Abort - is it a command?
>
> Yes.
>
> --------------
>
>
> Guide Head - what is it? Related to a guider?
>
> Yes. Advertisement about guide head:
>
> http://www.optcorp.com/**product.aspx?pid=6174<http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=6174>
>
> --------------
>
>
> Guide Wheel - what is it? Related to a guider?
>
> Similar to "Filter Wheel" but for guides.
>
> --------------
>
>
> Guide - what is it? A command?
>
> Label for CCD Guider control.
>
> --------------
>
>
> Halt - is it a command?
>
> Focus mode ("Halt", "Slow", "Fast").
>
> ---------------
>
>
> High - for what is it used? Translation may be dependent of exact use.
> Low - for what is it used+ Translation may be dependent of exact use.
>
> Noise reduction options (+Medium).
>
> ---------------
>
>
> Library - what is it?
>
> The name of the tab with star catalogs.
>
> ----------------
>
>
> Mount coordinates - what does it mean?
>
> Coordinates of telescope mounting
>
> ----------------
>
>
> Mount init. - what does it mean?
>
> Startup telescope position.
>
> ----------------
>
>
> Park - that one I understand but it seems it is used both as noun and verb
> (at least I see in my telescope simulator on Main control tab two "Park",
> one as control and other one as button) which makes translation hard ...
>
> Yes. The translation is hard thing to do... :'(
>
> -----------------
>
>
> Position - where is it? Translation may be dependent of exact use.
>
> Position of the focuser.
>
>
> Set register - is it a command? And what exactly is "register" here?
>
> Used to save the position and backlash of the focuser.
>
> -----------------
>
>
> Power - what is it? Related to electricity?
>
> Yes. A power switch for RoboFocuser.
>
> ---------------
>
>
> Saturation Mag - I didn't understand it
>
> Magnitude of CCD saturation.
>
> ---------------
>
>
> Save home - is it a command? And what does "home" mean here?
> Set home - is it a command? And what does "home" mean here?
>
> Home is the initial telescope for LX200-16 (can be set and saved)
>
> ---------------
>
>
> Seeing - for what is it?
>
> Label for the focuser seeing in arcsecs.
>
> ---------------
>
>
> Sleep - is it a command? (There is "Wake up", so it may be but I'm not
> sure ...)
>
> GPS system command ("Sleep", "Wake up", "Restart").
>
> ---------------
>
>
> Stream Off - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?
> Stream On - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?
>
> Yes. A video stream from v4l device (can be tested with any webcam).
>
> -----------------
>
>
> Transformation - what is it?
> app. to refracted - what does it mean? ( I mean, "app" may mean "apparent"
> but even then I don't understand)
> app., refr., tel., observed - what does it mean, or rather for what is it
> used?
> app., refr., telescope - what does it mean, or rather for what is it used?
>
> Apparent to observed coordinates transformation and the modes of this
> transformation using libnova.
>
> -----------------
>
>
> Use Pulse Cmd - what does it mean?
>
> Use pulse-guide commands. Set to on if this mount can support pulse guide
> commands. There appears to be no way to query this information from the
> mount.
>
> ------------------
>
>
> danger - what is it?
>
> Master alarm option ("off", "danger", "ON", "reset")
>
> ------------------
>
>
> rel. to HA - I understand it is "relative to hourangle" but where is it
> used?
>
> Mount declination axis position relative to HA coordinates.
>
> -------------------
>
>
> Hope this helps.
>
> Best regards,
> Yuri
>

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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">2012/10/16 Yuri Chornoivan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a \
href="mailto:yurchor@ukr.net" \
target="_blank">yurchor@ukr.net</a>&gt;</span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"> \
написане Tue, 16 Oct 2012 17:28:44 +0300, Marek Laane &lt;<a \
href="mailto:bald@smail.ee" target="_blank">bald@smail.ee</a>&gt;:<div><div \
class="h5"><br> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> 2012/10/14 Yuri Chornoivan &lt;<a \
href="mailto:yurchor@ukr.net" target="_blank">yurchor@ukr.net</a>&gt;<br> <br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> Hi,<br>
<br>
As you may noticed, KStars catalog now includes some basic GUI strings<br>
from libindi to have localized &quot;INDI Control Panel&quot;.<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
[...]<br>
<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"> <br>
Best regards,<br>
Yuri<br>
<br>
</blockquote>
<br>
Well, I&#39;ve many, really many questions. Most are related to the fact I have<br>
no scope and have to use just simulators which probably do not have all<br>
necessary strings. And another difficult problem is lack of commentars - in<br>
my language there are different forms for word when it is command/verb and<br>
when it is a noun ... I just hope somebody could answer them :-)<br>
<br>
Count - where can one see it and what exactly does it mean?<br>
<br>
Diff.Eq - what is it? Even Google doesn&#39;t know (not it nor diffequatorial)<br>
<br>
Expose Abort - is it a command?<br>
<br>
Factory - what is it?<br>
<br>
Fan - is it, err, device for ventilation?<br>
<br>
Feed - what is it? Or rather, where can one see it and feed for what it is?<br>
<br>
Filter Count - is it a number/count of filters?<br>
<br>
Find - is it a command?<br>
<br>
GPS Power - is it, i.e. &quot;power&quot; related to, err, electricity?<br>
<br>
Goto - I found GOTO but not Goto, so is it a command or what?<br>
<br>
Guide Abort - is it a command?<br>
<br>
Guide Head - what is it? Related to a guider?<br>
<br>
Guide Wheel - what is it? Related to a guider?<br>
<br>
Guide - what is it? A command?<br>
<br>
Halt - is it a command?<br>
<br>
High - for what is it used? Translation may be dependent of exact use.<br>
<br>
Library - what is it?<br>
<br>
Low - for what is it used+ Translation may be dependent of exact use.<br>
<br>
Mount coordinates - what does it mean?<br>
<br>
Mount init. - what does it mean?<br>
<br>
Park - that one I understand but it seems it is used both as noun and verb<br>
(at least I see in my telescope simulator on Main control tab two \
&quot;Park&quot;,<br> one as control and other one as button) which makes translation \
hard ...<br> <br>
Position - where is it? Translation may be dependent of exact use.<br>
<br>
Power - what is it? Related to electricity?<br>
<br>
Saturation Mag - I didn&#39;t understand it<br>
<br>
Save home - is it a command? And what does &quot;home&quot; mean here?<br>
<br>
Seeing - for what is it?<br>
<br>
Set Register - is it a command? And what exactly is &quot;register&quot; here?<br>
<br>
Set home - is it a command? And what does &quot;home&quot; mean here?<br>
<br>
Set register - is it a command? And what exactly is &quot;register&quot; here?<br>
<br>
Sleep - is it a command? (There is &quot;Wake up&quot;, so it may be but I&#39;m not \
                sure<br>
...)<br>
<br>
Stream Off - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?<br>
<br>
Stream On - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?<br>
<br>
Transformation - what is it?<br>
<br>
Use Pulse Cmd - what does it mean?<br>
<br>
app. to refracted - what does it mean? ( I mean, &quot;app&quot; may mean \
&quot;apparent&quot;<br> but even then I don&#39;t understand)<br>
<br>
app., refr., tel., observed - what does it mean, or rather for what is it<br>
used?<br>
<br>
app., refr., telescope - what does it mean, or rather for what is it used?<br>
<br>
danger - what is it?<br>
<br>
rel. to HA - I understand it is &quot;relative to hourangle&quot; but where is it<br>
used?<br>
<br>
<br>
Marek Laane,<br>
Estonian translator<br>
</blockquote>
<br></div></div>
Hi,<br>
<br>
That&#39;s slightly more questions about telescopes than Krõll, the Naksitrallid, \
the Kunksmoor, and the Sipsik could even imagine altogether. ;) I&#39;ll try to \
answer.<br> <br></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Many, many thanks! Both for helping \
with hard to understand string and for remembering famous heroes of Estonian tales \
:-)</div><div><br></div><div>Marek Laane</div><div>  </div><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex">

------------<br>
<br>
Diff. Eq.<br>
<br>
Comment in the code:<br>
<br>
Difference of the equatorial coordinates, used to estimate the applied \
corrections.<br> <br>
-----------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Expose Abort - is it a command?<br>
<br></div>
Yes. It is the command to abort the exposition.<br>
<br>
-------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Factory - what is it?<br>
<br></div>
Default settings of the appliance, hardcoded by the manufacturer.<br>
<br>
---------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Fan - is it, err, device for ventilation?<br>
<br></div>
Yes. The string is for the fan status.<br>
<br>
----------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Feed - what is it? Or rather, where can one see it and feed for what it is?<br>
<br></div>
Blob for sending image<br>
<br>
-----------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Filter Count - is it a number/count of filters?<br>
<br></div>
Yes.<br>
<br>
-----------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Find - is it a command?<br>
<br></div>
It is a slew mode (&quot;Slew&quot;, &quot;Find&quot;, &quot;Centering&quot;, \
&quot;Guide&quot;)<br> <br>
------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
GPS Power - is it, i.e. &quot;power&quot; related to, err, electricity?<br>
<br></div>
No. It&#39;s radiant flux of the signal.<br>
<br>
------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Goto - I found GOTO but not Goto, so is it a command or what?<br>
<br></div>
It&#39;s a switch (&quot;Goto&quot;, &quot;Sync&quot;, &quot;Track&quot;) to control \
Telescope behaviour when changing coordinates to the specified below on the page \
&quot;Main control&quot; (&quot;On Set&quot;).<br> <br>
-------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Guide Abort - is it a command?<br>
<br></div>
Yes.<br>
<br>
--------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Guide Head - what is it? Related to a guider?<br>
<br></div>
Yes. Advertisement about guide head:<br>
<br>
<a href="http://www.optcorp.com/product.aspx?pid=6174" \
target="_blank">http://www.optcorp.com/<u></u>product.aspx?pid=6174</a><br> <br>
--------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Guide Wheel - what is it? Related to a guider?<br>
<br></div>
Similar to &quot;Filter Wheel&quot; but for guides.<br>
<br>
--------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Guide - what is it? A command?<br>
<br></div>
Label for CCD Guider control.<br>
<br>
--------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Halt - is it a command?<br>
<br></div>
Focus mode (&quot;Halt&quot;, &quot;Slow&quot;, &quot;Fast&quot;).<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
High - for what is it used? Translation may be dependent of exact use.<br></div><div \
class="im"> Low - for what is it used+ Translation may be dependent of exact use.<br>
<br></div>
Noise reduction options (+Medium).<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Library - what is it?<br>
<br></div>
The name of the tab with star catalogs.<br>
<br>
----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Mount coordinates - what does it mean?<br>
<br></div>
Coordinates of telescope mounting<br>
<br>
----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Mount init. - what does it mean?<br>
<br></div>
Startup telescope position.<br>
<br>
----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Park - that one I understand but it seems it is used both as noun and verb (at least \
I see in my telescope simulator on Main control tab two &quot;Park&quot;, one as \
control and other one as button) which makes translation hard ...<br>

<br></div>
Yes. The translation is hard thing to do... :&#39;(<br>
<br>
-----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Position - where is it? Translation may be dependent of exact use.<br>
<br></div>
Position of the focuser.<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Set register - is it a command? And what exactly is &quot;register&quot; here?<br>
<br></div>
Used to save the position and backlash of the focuser.<br>
<br>
-----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Power - what is it? Related to electricity?<br>
<br></div>
Yes. A power switch for RoboFocuser.<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Saturation Mag - I didn&#39;t understand it<br>
<br></div>
Magnitude of CCD saturation.<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Save home - is it a command? And what does &quot;home&quot; mean here?<br></div><div \
class="im"> Set home - is it a command? And what does &quot;home&quot; mean here?<br>
<br></div>
Home is the initial telescope for LX200-16 (can be set and saved)<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Seeing - for what is it?<br>
<br></div>
Label for the focuser seeing in arcsecs.<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Sleep - is it a command? (There is &quot;Wake up&quot;, so it may be but I&#39;m not \
sure ...)<br> <br></div>
GPS system command (&quot;Sleep&quot;, &quot;Wake up&quot;, &quot;Restart&quot;).<br>
<br>
---------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Stream Off - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?<br>
Stream On - is it a command? And where, or for what stream?<br>
<br></div>
Yes. A video stream from v4l device (can be tested with any webcam).<br>
<br>
-----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Transformation - what is it?<br></div><div class="im">
app. to refracted - what does it mean? ( I mean, &quot;app&quot; may mean \
&quot;apparent&quot; but even then I don&#39;t understand)<br> app., refr., tel., \
observed - what does it mean, or rather for what is it used?<br> app., refr., \
telescope - what does it mean, or rather for what is it used?<br> <br></div>
Apparent to observed coordinates transformation and the modes of this transformation \
using libnova.<br> <br>
-----------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
Use Pulse Cmd - what does it mean?<br>
<br></div>
Use pulse-guide commands. Set to on if this mount can support pulse guide commands. \
There appears to be no way to query this information from the mount.<br> <br>
------------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
danger - what is it?<br>
<br></div>
Master alarm option (&quot;off&quot;, &quot;danger&quot;, &quot;ON&quot;, \
&quot;reset&quot;)<br> <br>
------------------<div class="im"><br>
<br>
rel. to HA - I understand it is &quot;relative to hourangle&quot; but where is it \
used?<br> <br></div>
Mount declination axis position relative to HA coordinates.<br>
<br>
-------------------<div class="HOEnZb"><div class="h5"><br>
<br>
Hope this helps.<br>
<br>
Best regards,<br>
Yuri<br>
</div></div></blockquote></div><br>



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