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List:       kde-i18n-doc
Subject:    Bringing Telugu to KDE
From:       "Sailendra" <pamidi_sailendra () yahoo ! com>
Date:       2001-09-19 15:51:40
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Bringing Telugu to KDE:

Is anybody already working on Telugu or  willing to
join the effort?

Regards,
Ramanujam.


Hi,
  This is an earlier meesage from Thomas about the support for Indic scripts
like telugu in KDE...
Hope this answers your question. I am also eagerly waiting for the
improvements in Qt library that adds basic support for Indic scripts
regards,
Sailendra Pamidi


From: "Thomas Diehl" <thd@kde.org>
To: <kde-i18n-doc@mail.kde.org>; "Sailendra" <pamidi_sailendra@yahoo.com>
Cc: "Harsh Kumar" <harshku@vsnl.com>; "U. Mohan Varma"
<mvarma@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in>; <srinu@nol.net.in>; "Taneem Ahmed"
<taneem@eyetap.org>
Sent: Monday, September 03, 2001 12:31 AM
Subject: Re: Any one working on Telugu language (te)?


> Am Sonntag, 2. September 2001 18:49 schrieb Sailendra:
>
> >        I am new to this list and have a query. Is any one
> > working on localizing KDE in Telugu language (te)? Please
> > let me know...
> > thanks,
> > Sailendra Pamidi.
> > (pamidi_Sailendra@yahoo.com)
>
> Quite a few people already showed up here with the same or a similar
> question (see CC). Problem is that support for Indic languages won't be
> there before Qt 3.1 at the earliest. Now we are apporaching 3.0 (due out
> this month).
>
> See attached msg by Lars Knoll for an explanation. After that (or if
> anybody finds a workaround before) we sure hope to get Telugu and other
> Indian languages into KDE.
>
> Regards,
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
> Von: Lars Knoll <lars@trolltech.com>
> An: "Thomas Diehl" <thd@kde.org>, "srinu@nol.net.in" <srinu@nol.net.in>
> Kopie: "Harsh Kumar" <harshku@vsnl.com>, "Karunakar Guntupalli"
> <indlinux@rediffmail.com> "U. Mohan Varma"
> <mvarma@cfdlab.aero.iisc.ernet.in>
>
> Hi,
>
> Telugu, as all other Indic languages is difficult to support in a complete
> way. The main problem is, that all these scripts have very complex rules
as
> how to render a string of characters. If you once read the section about
> Devanagari or Tamil in the Unicode book, you probably know what I mean.
>
> All these languages have very complex shaping behaviour (the shape of the
> character varies according to position), reordering (some vocals, in
> Devanagrai the i, are moved before the consonant they belong to), and a
> huge amount of ligatures.
>
> We still don't have support for these scripts in Qt-3.0, but will try to
> get support for them into Qt as soon as possible. There are a lot of
> problematic issues to resolve before that however.
>
> The first problematic issue is the difference between characters and
> glyphs. Unicode only defines "characters" for Indic languages (as opposed
> to glyphs, which are shaped variations of specific characters), so the
> engine needs to find out which glyphs to use for a sequence of characters
> in a string. This implies, that fonts used for rendering an indic script
> have to be a lot bigger than the range of characters defined in Unicode.
At
> the moment, there is no standard on how to encode the glyphs needed for
> indic scripts (apart >from Microsofts approach with open type). We will
> need such a standard (or resort to open type) to be able to handle indic
> scripts.
>
> The other issues are more or less internal to Qt, but nevertheless
> important. Qt will need a plugin mechanism to be able to load text engines
> for different scripts. These engines will need support for quite some
> things, most noticeably among them support for shaping, ligatures and
glyph
> reordering. Other issues are cursor positioning and line breaking.
>
> So you see, that all this is quite a complex issue, and will need a lot of
> work, before being able to write some indic language in a text editor.
>
> Best regards,
> Lars
>
>
>
>
> --
> KDE translation: http://i18n.kde.org/
> Deutsche KDE-Uebersetzung: http://i18n.kde.org/de/


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