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List:       kde-games-devel
Subject:    Re: D21277: Add new "Waste" theme
From:       Ian Wadham <iandw.au () gmail ! com>
Date:       2019-05-20 22:38:07
Message-ID: 630455DB-EB7B-4720-BFFC-DB327B823775 () gmail ! com
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Hi Gregor,

I have read your comments on Phabricator but am unable to reply there, so please excuse me using \
kde-games-devel.

I think the Waste theme for KMines is a great idea, but I agree with Albert that cigarette butts are not \
such a good idea.

Where I live (Australia) smoking has been banned in workplaces and most public places for a number of \
years, because most of the garbage from them goes into people's lungs — with horrific results, as shown \
(by law) on Australian cigarette packets. The habit of smoking is in decline here.

So cigarette butts on Australian streets are a rarity. On hiking tracks they are a definite no-no, \
because of the danger of bushfires, as would also be the case in California and Southern Europe I \
imagine.

Curiously, non-smokers have become more sensitive to "passive smoking". I can pick up the whiff of a \
cigarette on a railway platform from about 20 metres away and then I start to cough. Even smokers now go \
outside their houses to smoke, because it makes the house smelly and grubby, unpleasant for guests and \
hard to sell.

So I was dismayed to find, on my last trip to Europe in 2008, how prevalent smoking still was over there. \
It was a definite turn-off in what was otherwise a wonderful trip.

Smoking is a health problem. Solve that and the garbage problem from cigarette butts will go away.

Even before smoking bans in Australia, bottles, cans and plastic packaging made up by far the greatest \
parts of the trash on streets, beaches and hiking tracks — and still do. So please use those items in \
the Waste theme.

You need to worry about your 6-year old nephew having no fish in the oceans, rivers and lakes when he \
grows up, not to mention the ugliness of plastic garbage today. Maybe you could emphasise re-cycling or \
re-use somehow.

If you do stay with cigarettes as the theme, please use the word "butt" for the throwaway part. "Stump" \
is used for broken trees and posts and amputated limbs.

And please use butts in the graphics, not whole cigarettes. One rarely has the luck(?) to find a whole \
cigarette on the street… :-)

Cheers, Ian W.

> On 21 May 2019, at 4:27 am, gregormi <noreply@phabricator.kde.org> wrote:
> 
> View Revision
> gregormi added inline comments. 
> 
> INLINE COMMENTS
> View Inlineaacid wrote in kmines_waste.info.md:8
> These licenses don't really seem valid according to https://community.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy
> 
> "Media files such as images may be licensed under the CC-BY-SA-4.0 or compatible licence." --> This \
> license looks compatible but I am not a licensing expert :( 
> 
> REPOSITORY
> R404 KMines
> 
> REVISION DETAIL
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D21277
> 
> To: gregormi, KDE Games
> Cc: aacid, mlaurent, kde-games-devel


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