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List:       kde-games-devel
Subject:    Re: D21277: Add new "Waste" theme
From:       Ian Wadham <iandw.au () gmail ! com>
Date:       2019-05-20 22:38:07
Message-ID: 630455DB-EB7B-4720-BFFC-DB327B823775 () gmail ! com
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Hi Gregor,

I have read your comments on Phabricator but am unable to reply there, so please \
excuse me using kde-games-devel.

I think the Waste theme for KMines is a great idea, but I agree with Albert that \
cigarette butts are not such a good idea.

Where I live (Australia) smoking has been banned in workplaces and most public places \
for a number of years, because most of the garbage from them goes into people's lungs \
— with horrific results, as shown (by law) on Australian cigarette packets. The \
habit of smoking is in decline here.

So cigarette butts on Australian streets are a rarity. On hiking tracks they are a \
definite no-no, because of the danger of bushfires, as would also be the case in \
California and Southern Europe I imagine.

Curiously, non-smokers have become more sensitive to "passive smoking". I can pick up \
the whiff of a cigarette on a railway platform from about 20 metres away and then I \
start to cough. Even smokers now go outside their houses to smoke, because it makes \
the house smelly and grubby, unpleasant for guests and hard to sell.

So I was dismayed to find, on my last trip to Europe in 2008, how prevalent smoking \
still was over there. It was a definite turn-off in what was otherwise a wonderful \
trip.

Smoking is a health problem. Solve that and the garbage problem from cigarette butts \
will go away.

Even before smoking bans in Australia, bottles, cans and plastic packaging made up by \
far the greatest parts of the trash on streets, beaches and hiking tracks — and \
still do. So please use those items in the Waste theme.

You need to worry about your 6-year old nephew having no fish in the oceans, rivers \
and lakes when he grows up, not to mention the ugliness of plastic garbage today. \
Maybe you could emphasise re-cycling or re-use somehow.

If you do stay with cigarettes as the theme, please use the word "butt" for the \
throwaway part. "Stump" is used for broken trees and posts and amputated limbs.

And please use butts in the graphics, not whole cigarettes. One rarely has the \
luck(?) to find a whole cigarette on the street… :-)

Cheers, Ian W.

> On 21 May 2019, at 4:27 am, gregormi <noreply@phabricator.kde.org> wrote:
> 
> View Revision
> gregormi added inline comments. 
> 
> INLINE COMMENTS
> View Inlineaacid wrote in kmines_waste.info.md:8
> These licenses don't really seem valid according to \
> https://community.kde.org/Policies/Licensing_Policy 
> "Media files such as images may be licensed under the CC-BY-SA-4.0 or compatible \
> licence." --> This license looks compatible but I am not a licensing expert :( 
> 
> REPOSITORY
> R404 KMines
> 
> REVISION DETAIL
> https://phabricator.kde.org/D21277
> 
> To: gregormi, KDE Games
> Cc: aacid, mlaurent, kde-games-devel


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