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Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: [Parley-devel] common vocabulary lists
From: Sabine Cretella <s.cretella () gmail ! com>
Date: 2010-04-25 18:00:53
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J=FCrgen, please give me some days - I will try to answer you on that. Ther=
e's
just too much stuff around.
I want to see if Google spreadsheets can digest the big list - the small on=
e
for sure. So that is where you then can invite people to contribut with -
Wikis are too prone to vandalism IMHO - you need people that won't mix up
your data - the handful of people that will work on it should be sure that
their time is invested well.
Of course you can go the Wiki-way, but please remember that there is always
loads of admin work on a wiki to do and that takes away time from actually
contributing. This is one of the reasons why I stopped to work on Wiktionar=
y
- it took me more time to clean vandalisms than I could in the end add in
new terminology (which in any case cannot be extracted easily)
Maybe we have even a better way to do things, but I am myself waiting for
information.
Btw. for English-Spanish:
http://ambaradan.i-iter.org/voxhumanitatis/raw-file/b7fc8f4fa976/anaphraseu=
s/eng-spa/anaphraseusEnWikt-eng-spa.txt
This is the English-Spanish wordlist in a tab delimited format from the
English wiktionary. - eventually you will first have to set the encoding of
your browser to utf-8 and than you can save the file properly
http://ambaradan.i-iter.org/voxhumanitatis/raw-file/b7fc8f4fa976/parley/eng=
-spa/VocTrainVH-eng-spa.kvtml
file of VH data for Parley - eventually you will first have to set the
encoding of your browser to utf-8 and than you can save the file properly
I have another two data sets here - one on environmental terminology and on=
e
general/specialised mixed, but don't have time to convert them right now ..=
.
this will take a bit.
cheers, Sabine
On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at 7:41 PM, Juergen :-) <b4tasttd@auroville.org.in>wro=
te:
> Hi everybody,
>
> Sabine's mail about collective files brings up another aspect for me.
> Presently there is no way to build vocabulary-lists together. That is a
> pity because practically everybody has to start from scratch with on of
> the present lists.
> But if one user builds a list and uploads it some other user can
> download it and use it and add to it but not upload it under the same
> file. My suggestion to think about a solution.
> I guess in whatever language there could be a template for a structure li=
ke
>
> at home
> at work
> in a restaurant
> in the post office
> etc
>
> If Parley could have a kind of wiki-list where people simply could add
> or edit words or grammar then this file could be used by all users of
> the same language and if this file could work in reverse order like
> EN-ES as well as ES-EN one could expect a faster grow of language files.
>
> This will not take care of people who use a specific book and want to
> follow the vocabularies of this book.
>
> Be at peace and in harmony.
> Juergen
>
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Jürgen, please give me some days - I will try to answer you on that. There's just \
too much stuff around.<br><br>I want to see if Google spreadsheets can digest the big \
list - the small one for sure. So that is where you then can invite people to \
contribut with - Wikis are too prone to vandalism IMHO - you need people that \
won't mix up your data - the handful of people that will work on it should be \
sure that their time is invested well.<br> <br>Of course you can go the Wiki-way, but \
please remember that there is always loads of admin work on a wiki to do and that \
takes away time from actually contributing. This is one of the reasons why I stopped \
to work on Wiktionary - it took me more time to clean vandalisms than I could in the \
end add in new terminology (which in any case cannot be extracted easily)<br> \
<br>Maybe we have even a better way to do things, but I am myself waiting for \
information. <br><br>Btw. for English-Spanish:<br><a \
href="http://ambaradan.i-iter.org/voxhumanitatis/raw-file/b7fc8f4fa976/anaphraseus/eng \
-spa/anaphraseusEnWikt-eng-spa.txt">http://ambaradan.i-iter.org/voxhumanitatis/raw-file/b7fc8f4fa976/anaphraseus/eng-spa/anaphraseusEnWikt-eng-spa.txt</a><br>
This is the English-Spanish wordlist in a tab delimited format from the English \
wiktionary. - eventually you will first have to set the encoding of your browser to \
utf-8 and than you can save the file properly<br><br><a \
href="http://ambaradan.i-iter.org/voxhumanitatis/raw-file/b7fc8f4fa976/parley/eng-spa/ \
VocTrainVH-eng-spa.kvtml">http://ambaradan.i-iter.org/voxhumanitatis/raw-file/b7fc8f4fa976/parley/eng-spa/VocTrainVH-eng-spa.kvtml</a><br>
file of VH data for Parley - eventually you will first have to set the encoding of \
your browser to utf-8 and than you can save the file properly<br><br>I have another \
two data sets here - one on environmental terminology and one general/specialised \
mixed, but don't have time to convert them right now ... this will take a \
bit.<br> <br>cheers, Sabine<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Sun, Apr 25, 2010 at \
7:41 PM, Juergen :-) <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:b4tasttd@auroville.org.in">b4tasttd@auroville.org.in</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, \
204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> Hi everybody,<br>
<br>
Sabine's mail about collective files brings up another aspect for me.<br>
Presently there is no way to build vocabulary-lists together. That is a<br>
pity because practically everybody has to start from scratch with on of<br>
the present lists.<br>
But if one user builds a list and uploads it some other user can<br>
download it and use it and add to it but not upload it under the same<br>
file. My suggestion to think about a solution.<br>
I guess in whatever language there could be a template for a structure like<br>
<br>
at home<br>
at work<br>
in a restaurant<br>
in the post office<br>
etc<br>
<br>
If Parley could have a kind of wiki-list where people simply could add<br>
or edit words or grammar then this file could be used by all users of<br>
the same language and if this file could work in reverse order like<br>
EN-ES as well as ES-EN one could expect a faster grow of language files.<br>
<br>
This will not take care of people who use a specific book and want to<br>
follow the vocabularies of this book.<br>
<br>
Be at peace and in harmony.<br>
Juergen<br></blockquote></div>
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