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Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: Step without kdelibs?
From: Aleix Pol <aleixpol () kde ! org>
Date: 2010-02-11 19:58:28
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On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Albert Astals Cid <aacid@kde.org> wrote:
> A Dijous, 11 de febrer de 2010, v_2e@ukr.net va escriure:
> > On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:17:35 +0100
> >
> > "Anne-Marie Mahfouf" <annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > >
> > > Step is in KDE-Edu since KDE 4.1. If you're using Marble already,
> chances
> > > are that you have the kdelibs for it (except if you use the Qt-only
> > > version). You cannot run Step without the kdelibs nor can you run any
> > > KDE-Edu program without kdelibs. KDE software by definition is software
> > > builds with kdelibs.
> > >
> > > Not sure why you do not want the kde libraries on your system: space?
> > > other reason? If you want to use/develop any KDE program you need those
> > > libs. If you don't want kdelibs, you don't want any KDE and KDE-Edu
> > > programs.
> > >
> > > You can perfectly run/develop Step without runnning KDE workspace
> itself
> > > though. The Plasma Desktop is not needed, you can run Step on GNOME or
> > > other desktop. What you need are Step dependencies and kdelibs is one
> of
> > > them. But kdelibs is not the desktop, Plasma is the desktop. You seem
> to
> > > mix those and I hope this clarifies it.
> > >
> > > Anne-Marie
> >
> > Thank you for such a quick answer!
> > I must say I do distinguish between the libraries and desktop, but as
> > I have already said, I don't use anything that needs kdelibs and I
> > don't actually want them to be present in my system just for one
> > application much.
>
> Any reason for that? Is your hard disk that small?
>
> > I must say that I'm not one of them, but still I'd like the programs
> > I use have as little dependencies as possible.
>
> That's nonsense, a program having as little dependencies as possible means
> programming yourself something that other already programmed.
>
> > I hope, you understand my thoughts in spite of my poor English. :)
>
> No, I don't understand a single reason of why you don't want to isntall
> kdelibs other than "I do not use it", which is false because you'd use it
> for
> Step.
>
> Albert
>
> >
> > Thanks.
> > Vladimir.
> >
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a reason would be I use a non-unix system and there's no easy way to install
KDE.
but of course here the solution is not to remove the dependency.
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<div class="gmail_quote">On Thu, Feb 11, 2010 at 7:52 PM, Albert Astals Cid <span \
dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:aacid@kde.org">aacid@kde.org</a>></span> \
wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; \
border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); padding-left: 1ex;"> A Dijous, 11 de \
febrer de 2010, <a href="mailto:v_2e@ukr.net">v_2e@ukr.net</a> va escriure:<br> <div \
class="im">> On Thu, 11 Feb 2010 16:17:35 +0100<br> ><br>
> "Anne-Marie Mahfouf" <<a \
href="mailto:annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr">annemarie.mahfouf@free.fr</a>> wrote:<br> \
> > Hi,<br> > ><br>
> > Step is in KDE-Edu since KDE 4.1. If you're using Marble already, \
chances<br> > > are that you have the kdelibs for it (except if you use the \
Qt-only<br> > > version). You cannot run Step without the kdelibs nor can you \
run any<br> > > KDE-Edu program without kdelibs. KDE software by definition is \
software<br> > > builds with kdelibs.<br>
> ><br>
> > Not sure why you do not want the kde libraries on your system: space?<br>
> > other reason? If you want to use/develop any KDE program you need those<br>
> > libs. If you don't want kdelibs, you don't want any KDE and \
KDE-Edu<br> > > programs.<br>
> ><br>
> > You can perfectly run/develop Step without runnning KDE workspace \
itself<br> > > though. The Plasma Desktop is not needed, you can run Step on \
GNOME or<br> > > other desktop. What you need are Step dependencies and kdelibs \
is one of<br> > > them. But kdelibs is not the desktop, Plasma is the desktop. \
You seem to<br> > > mix those and I hope this clarifies it.<br>
> ><br>
> > Anne-Marie<br>
><br>
> Thank you for such a quick answer!<br>
> I must say I do distinguish between the libraries and desktop, but as<br>
> I have already said, I don't use anything that needs kdelibs and I<br>
> don't actually want them to be present in my system just for one<br>
> application much.<br>
<br>
</div>Any reason for that? Is your hard disk that small?<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I must say that I'm not one of them, but still I'd like the \
programs<br> > I use have as little dependencies as possible.<br>
<br>
</div>That's nonsense, a program having as little dependencies as possible \
means<br> programming yourself something that other already programmed.<br>
<div class="im"><br>
> I hope, you understand my thoughts in spite of my poor English. :)<br>
<br>
</div>No, I don't understand a single reason of why you don't want to \
isntall<br> kdelibs other than "I do not use it", which is false because \
you'd use it for<br> Step.<br>
<font color="#888888"><br>
Albert<br>
</font><div><div></div><div class="h5"><br>
><br>
> Thanks.<br>
> Vladimir.<br>
><br>
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</div></div></blockquote></div><br>a reason would be I use a non-unix system and \
there's no easy way to install KDE.<br><br>but of course here the solution is \
not to remove the dependency.<br>
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