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List:       kde-edu-devel
Subject:    Re: [kde-edu-devel] kverbos
From:       Klas Kalass <klas.kalass () gmx ! de>
Date:       2002-07-28 16:52:46
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Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2002 20:17 schrieb Matthias Messmer:
> On Sunday 28 July 2002 17:59, Klas Kalass wrote:
> > Am Sonntag, 28. Juli 2002 06:17 schrieb Arnold Kraschinski:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > first of all it isn't important for me that KVerbos is part of the KDE
> > > distribution. I wrote the program for myself to train the Spanish verbs
> > > and this is still the main purpose. I found the KDE-EDU group only by
> > > chance. So feel free to remove it.
> >
> > OK, so I think we should remove it from the edu module - but feel free to
> > put it into the extra gear if you would like to keep it in KDE Project.
> > Just ask someone with enough karma to move your app serverside and
> > subscribe to the mailinglist. Else please remove it from edu yourself, as
> > it is your app :)
> >
> > Reminder: All apps in the extra gear are supposed to be stable or
> > near-stable and are expected to be *actively* maintained.
> >
> > Greetings,
> > Klas
>
> Why dont you answer to the later statements of Arnold?
Because I did not feel like I should take part in the arguments about having 
or not having this app in the edu module, I was just offering him to go to 
the extra gear because he offered to remove it and not everybody on this list 
seemed to want to keep it. Sorry if I sounded harsh, that was not my 
intention.

But now I will voice my opinion, assuming that the interface is already i18n 
or will be in time for KDE 3.1 (Having an option to run the interface in 
spanish is a great idea, forcing spanish on the novice is not).


>
> 1. Most Voctrainers - so ours - have the problem that there are no voc data
> to train with. KVerbos generates lots of data by itself.
>
> 2. Furthermore there are lots of discussion about the usability/GUI of
> KVocTrain. So in my oppinion it is not yet an alternative.
I agree that this needs improvements - I showed it at Linux Tag and when 
people wanted to know how to do something I most often only was able to say 
"I am sure that is possible, but I don't know how". That was quite 
embarrassing, because I even did take some time prior to LT to get to know 
the apps I was going to show, but it was not enough in that case.

>
> 3. If we empasise voc training we will lose language specific gramar
> sections. KLatin tries to work on that, KVerbos does, too.
>
> Conclusion:
> Since we dont have a general "KLanguage" application featuring plugins for
> several language specific training sections we should not bann tiny
> projects like Kverbos from kdeedu, imho.
I was not banning it, I was offering a new home.

But I would rather see everybody involved in language training applications 
get together and create KLanguage, even if that would mean that everybody 
would have to wait one year or more for that to be usefull. It is a lot 
better than having all those different apps.

Is anybody actually working on something like that? If not, why not? (no, I am 
not volunteering, I even have not enough time to do all the things I planned 
for keduca).

Klas
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