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List:       kde-edu
Subject:    Re: [kde-edu]: unified kde-edu style?
From:       "Mahfouf Anne-Marie" <annemahfouf () hotmail ! com>
Date:       2002-08-07 21:01:44
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>From: Sebastian Stein <s5228@informatik.htw-dresden.de>
>Reply-To: kde-edu@kde.org
>To: kde-edu@kde.org
>Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: unified kde-edu style?
>Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:05:00 +0200
>
>Michael Hofer <michaelhofer@gmx.net> [020807 21:58]:
> > I've read the thread and there were some interesting ideas. It may be a 
>good
> > idea to develop a library providing functions for typical needs in
> > kedu-software. But what are "typical needs" for edu-apps?
>
>I think at the moment there is "only" code to store and read entries from a
>vocabular file like Scott Wheeler mentioned today.
>
> > When I look at the current KDE-EDU-apps, there is a "touch typing 
>tutor", a
> > "desktop planetarium", an "alphabet tutor", a geometry program,.....
> > Ok, there are a few vocabulary-trainers and math-programs. But is this 
>reason
> > enough for a kde-edu-lib? Or wouldn't it be a better way to merge these 
>very
> > similar programs (or at least bring them on a common codebase)?
>
>I agree with you very much. All the math applications could be merged to 
>one
>big MathCenter. But the problem is that some apps deal with training and
>some with supporting the pupils solving their mathematical tasks. The
>question is if it is good to combine them under one app or if there should
>be a common math training app and a math help app. I think one app would be
>enough with a training and a help mode or something like that.

Yes, training is one thing but help/explanation is another thing. It seems 
quite a lot
of work to do all that in one app. I don't agree with a common training app 
and a separate
common help app, I don't think it will be attractive to pupils and teachers.

>
> > - font-sizes
kdelibs provides already bigger fonts that we could use (I am a fan of big 
fonts for young kids
apps...)
> > - simplified menu-structures/systems
yes, the kid look has less menu items
> > - color-schemes
yes
> > - use of images
yes
> > - sounds
yes
> > - logos/splash-screens
yes
splash-screens are not used in KDE except for apps that take time to load
> > - a unified scoring/motivational-system (extended kfeeder?)
yes, PRIORITY
> > - "gameplay" (or how to make edu-software fun to use)
yes
>
>You are very right and at the moment I don't know a point to add.

Yes, we already though of unifying that but it is difficult practically. 
However,
some of the apps have now 2 modes: a kid look and a grown-up look. (KLettres 
and KHangMan)
This cannot be applicable for all apps, for example Kalzium does not need 
this.
Scoring system is a priority I would say. It is something that is badly done 
at the moment.
We thought of the use of KFeeder via the kde-edu lib with different graphics 
for each app.

You have quickly found out what needs to be done in KDE-Edu :)

KDE-Edu is not even 1 year old and when we started, we were not very 
structured...
We now have a better understanding of the release process, of the KDE look, 
of i18n,...
We now have feature plans for 3.1 and 3.2, we can even start a 4.0 plan.
If we can define practical objectives and integrate them in the feature 
plans, then it
will be easier to fulfill them.

annma




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