From kde-edu Wed Aug 07 21:01:44 2002 From: "Mahfouf Anne-Marie" Date: Wed, 07 Aug 2002 21:01:44 +0000 To: kde-edu Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: unified kde-edu style? X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-edu&m=102875418614061 >From: Sebastian Stein >Reply-To: kde-edu@kde.org >To: kde-edu@kde.org >Subject: Re: [kde-edu]: unified kde-edu style? >Date: Wed, 7 Aug 2002 22:05:00 +0200 > >Michael Hofer [020807 21:58]: > > I've read the thread and there were some interesting ideas. It may be a >good > > idea to develop a library providing functions for typical needs in > > kedu-software. But what are "typical needs" for edu-apps? > >I think at the moment there is "only" code to store and read entries from a >vocabular file like Scott Wheeler mentioned today. > > > When I look at the current KDE-EDU-apps, there is a "touch typing >tutor", a > > "desktop planetarium", an "alphabet tutor", a geometry program,..... > > Ok, there are a few vocabulary-trainers and math-programs. But is this >reason > > enough for a kde-edu-lib? Or wouldn't it be a better way to merge these >very > > similar programs (or at least bring them on a common codebase)? > >I agree with you very much. All the math applications could be merged to >one >big MathCenter. But the problem is that some apps deal with training and >some with supporting the pupils solving their mathematical tasks. The >question is if it is good to combine them under one app or if there should >be a common math training app and a math help app. I think one app would be >enough with a training and a help mode or something like that. Yes, training is one thing but help/explanation is another thing. It seems quite a lot of work to do all that in one app. I don't agree with a common training app and a separate common help app, I don't think it will be attractive to pupils and teachers. > > > - font-sizes kdelibs provides already bigger fonts that we could use (I am a fan of big fonts for young kids apps...) > > - simplified menu-structures/systems yes, the kid look has less menu items > > - color-schemes yes > > - use of images yes > > - sounds yes > > - logos/splash-screens yes splash-screens are not used in KDE except for apps that take time to load > > - a unified scoring/motivational-system (extended kfeeder?) yes, PRIORITY > > - "gameplay" (or how to make edu-software fun to use) yes > >You are very right and at the moment I don't know a point to add. Yes, we already though of unifying that but it is difficult practically. However, some of the apps have now 2 modes: a kid look and a grown-up look. (KLettres and KHangMan) This cannot be applicable for all apps, for example Kalzium does not need this. Scoring system is a priority I would say. It is something that is badly done at the moment. We thought of the use of KFeeder via the kde-edu lib with different graphics for each app. You have quickly found out what needs to be done in KDE-Edu :) KDE-Edu is not even 1 year old and when we started, we were not very structured... We now have a better understanding of the release process, of the KDE look, of i18n,... We now have feature plans for 3.1 and 3.2, we can even start a 4.0 plan. If we can define practical objectives and integrate them in the feature plans, then it will be easier to fulfill them. annma _________________________________________________________________ MSN Photos is the easiest way to share and print your photos: http://photos.msn.com/support/worldwide.aspx _______________________________________________ kde-edu mailing list kde-edu@mail.kde.org http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-edu