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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: New QT tear-off menus
From:       Chad Frick <setzer () flash ! net>
Date:       2001-03-30 3:44:36
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"If it will be off by default, maybe one could think about putting it in the 
"Toolbar Menu" context menu. That way it's fast to reach and fast to switch 
on or off."

Excellent idea.  Now that you mention the gimp, I do see how they could be 
beneficial with the gimps convoluted chains of submenus.  While I think that 
tear-offs would only serve to confuse a new user, or an 'average' user who 
merely wishes to play cards and read e-mail, I would never absolutely rule 
out the existance of any UI feature which could be turned on by those who 
would actually recieve benefit from them (the power users).

On Friday 30 March 2001 01:20 am, Richard Stevens wrote:
>Hi,
>
>> 	Yeah, that's some really great reasoning.  Tear off menus are illogical
>> in my opinion and are do not speed up access to menu items if your
>> launcher (the 'K' menu) is correctly positioned.
>
>please explain. Why are they illogical? I sometimes use GIMP. Often I have
> to use some function quite a few times. I don't want to change my Shortkeys
> though. In those cases I'm really glad to be able to simply tear of the
> menu that contains the desired entry and use it like a toolbar.
>
>>They also do not speed up menu
>> access in programs if you have the menu bar set to the 'MacOS' style (give
>> it a try, you'll notice a speed increase upon being able to throw your
>> mouse at the top of the screen and click as opposed to merely moving it to
>> a menu item). Tear-offs should be left an option for the user, but not the
>> defacto behaviour.
>
>I would put it that way. Tearing off a menu should be left an option for the
>user but being able to do so in the first place would be nice ;). If it will
>be off by default, maybe one could think about putting it in the "Toolbar
>Menu" context menu. That way it's fast to reach and fast to switch on or
> off.
>
>Cheers,
>
>Richard

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