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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    furthermore (in the interests of cooperation)
From:       Seth Nickell <snickell () stanford ! edu>
Date:       2001-02-25 22:19:56
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I notice Konqueror has almost no GNOME applications registered (in spite
of knowing about many non-GNOME applications such as JBuilder, etc), and
gmc was just as bad about KDE apps, of course (ok, gmc was just bad all
around ;). Is there somebody I could send a list of MIME/types and
affiliated applications to so we can all support eachother better? I
would be happy to provide whatever info you need. We should make it as
painless as possible for users to mix and match environments if that is
what they desire (there are key applications on both sides that the
other doesn't really have a functional equal on the other side, for
example gimp on gnome and killustrator on kde). 

It is probably not only necessary, but healthy, if users find they can
use KDE apps under GNOME and GNOME apps under KDE. Remember that we
should be about opening up options, not shutting them down. Rather than
squabbling over the relatively tiny linux desktop of today, we can work
together and grow Linux on the desktop to the point where there's easily
"enough for everyone" ;-)

-Seth

I wrote:
> 
> fellow hackers,
> 
> <inspiring speech>
> The following is my small part in trying to shore up the silly rifts
> that have developed between our communities. We (meaning KDE & GNOME &
> all free software) have the "higher moral ground" here (free software),
> so lets be a model to proprietary software developers, and show them
> that if nothing else free software allows us to work together more
> cooperatively and effectively. :-) Goodwill towards all hackers, gnome
> and kde alike, says I.
> </barfy speech>
> 
> The short story: Nautilus 1.0 (the GNOME 1.4+ filemanager) will be
> frozen imminently (like early within this upcoming week), and released
> fairly soon thereafter. Our application database doesn't have many KDE
> applications right now, but we want to support all cool free software.
> Therefore, I want to know what should be added to the application list
> from the KDE project.
> 
> I know this is short notice, but only recently did I notice the
> deficiencies in the Application/MIME database. I realize KDE doesn't use
> a centralized Application database, a decision I actually agree with,
> but at this stage in a release we must run with what is well tested and
> proven over a year of abuse (uh, I mean testing). I have already added
> appropriate entries for KWord, KSpread, KIllustrator, and KPresenter
> (though can somebody send me a list of the appropriate mime types for
> these? currently I'm just using application/x-kappname).
> 
> Of course, users can customize their file associations and mime
> types...but if you want your application (or any application near and
> dear to your heart) to be executable "out of the box" with Nautilus
> please send me the following by e-mail (seth@eazel.com):
> 
> Application command:    (e.g. 'kword')
> Application name:       (e.g. 'KWord')
> Supported mime types:   (e.g. 'application/x-kword', 'text/x-abiword',
> 'application/msword' etc)
> 
> AND, for *each* MIME type (unless it is fairly common such as PNG, BMP,
> DOC, XLS, WAV, MPEG, basically anything in /etc/magic) it would be
> useful to have as much of the following info as you know/can find
> (particularly necessary if this is the application's native format)
> 
> MIME type:              (e.g. 'video/mpeg')
> Description of format:  (e.g. 'Microsoft Video')
> suffix/extensions:      (e.g. '.mpeg', '.mp2', '.vob', etc)
> Magic MIME number (way to detect it):    (e.g. initial byte offset: 0
> character string: 0x000 0x000 0x001 0x272   (or could be '%PDF' as
> another example that doesn't use character codes))
> You may also attach an icon for the mime type if you wish, though I may
> not use all icons.
> 
> cheers!
> 
> -Seth (Nautilus/gnome-vfs/tadpole hacker)
> 
> <snickell@stanford.edu>
> 
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