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Subject: RE: more on KDE keybinding standard
From: Dima Rogozin <dima () mercury ! co ! il>
Date: 1999-09-14 0:31:23
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>> - Ctrl-A: Most application use Ctrl-A for "Select All" functionality.
>> This is de facto standard in MS. Several applications use this
>> accelerator for other menus like "Save As" or "Open New Page"
>> I believe Ctrl-A should be declared for "Select All" the same way we
>> do it for other keys in kdstdaccel.
>well, it is a de facto standard for "cursor to beginning of line" in Unix
>- and so does Qt handle it. So far, we cannot change accelerators, used in
>Qt widgets itself, but this will change in Qt 2.1. Then, we can use
>whatever action, as long as I can configure it to "beginning of line"
>:o)
I really don't want to start MS/Unix war here but we have to admit that
in the desktop word standards are set by MS and not by UNIX. And since
our target is MS desktop users we want to bring to KDE, I believe we need
to make them feel comfortable with KDE bindings (read: make KDE bindings
to be similar to MS bindings).
But this is going to be configurable anyway and die-hard UNIX users could
change it. :)
>> - F3: Most applications use it for "Find next". But a lot of applications
>> do not use any accelerator for this menu.
>Yes, I quite like this one! IMHO it should work for the first search as
>well, e.g. "if we already have a search string" -> "use this one to find
>the next occurrence from current position" and "if there is no search
>string" -> "just open default search dialog as with Ctrl-F".
Ctrl-F was a standard for "Start Search" for a long time now.
I don't think it make sence to change it. And again: it is de facto standard
for MS.
Dima.
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<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>> - Ctrl-A: Most application use Ctrl-A for "Select \
All" functionality.</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>> This is de \
facto standard in MS. Several applications use this </FONT> <BR><FONT \
SIZE=2>>> accelerator for other menus like "Save As" or \
"Open New Page"</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>> I believe \
Ctrl-A should be declared for "Select All" the same way we</FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>>> do it for other keys in kdstdaccel.</FONT>
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<P><FONT SIZE=2>>well, it is a de facto standard for "cursor to beginning of \
line" in Unix</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>- and so does Qt handle it. So far, we \
cannot change accelerators, used in</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>Qt widgets itself, \
but this will change in Qt 2.1. Then, we can use</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>whatever \
action, as long as I can configure it to "beginning of line" </FONT> \
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>:o)</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>I really don't want to start MS/Unix war here but we have to admit \
that</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>in the desktop word standards are set by MS and not by \
UNIX. And since</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>our target is MS desktop users we want to \
bring to KDE, I believe we need </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to make them feel \
comfortable with KDE bindings (read: make KDE bindings </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>to be \
similar to MS bindings).</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>But this is going to be configurable \
anyway and die-hard UNIX users could</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>change it. :)</FONT>
</P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>>> - F3: Most applications use it for "Find next". \
But a lot of applications</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>> do not use any \
accelerator for this menu. </FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>>Yes, I quite like this one! IMHO it should work for the first \
search as</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>well, e.g. "if we already have a search \
string" -> "use this one to find</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>>the next \
occurrence from current position" and "if there is no search</FONT> \
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>>string" -> "just open default search dialog as with \
Ctrl-F".</FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2> </FONT>
<BR><FONT SIZE=2>Ctrl-F was a standard for "Start Search" for a long time \
now. </FONT> <BR><FONT SIZE=2>I don't think it make sence to change it. And again: it \
is de facto standard for MS. </FONT> </P>
<P><FONT SIZE=2>Dima.</FONT>
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