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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Q: 1.1: panel & taskbar stay on top
From:       hpj.lisa () t-online ! de (Hans-Peter Jansen)
Date:       1999-02-13 5:26:25
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Matthias Ettrich wrote:
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> I'm really sick of all these options. It's standard that taskbars are on top
> and it makes a lot of sense. If you don't like, fix kpanel, but think about the
> autohide stuff and the electric borders. Whenever I received a panel patch
> during the last half year, it broke some of the options. We definitely have too
> many of them, I'm afraid.
> 
> Matthias

I can feel with you! But nevertheless, start kview with a picture and
press f.
You can say, it's a bug in kview (one has to know, that a 2nd f-key
restores
from full screen mode), and this brings us to the window positioning
policy
again, which i wouldn't call real smart (from user point of view).
Sorry! I'm
working in a 1280x1024 resolution, but every program starts in topmost
left 
position, exactly where the desktop icons are (as long as there is
enough free
space). This is annoying. What I consider as a real bug, is, that a
second 
taskbar line is not respected from (new) windows. 

Tip of the day: "If you can't see the window title, just move the window 
down with the alt LMB trick."

Those fullscreen problems (or annoyancies) also applies to xawtv (where
you 
could see the sender before), etc.

Why does kfm and friends doesn't remember there last position (at least
optional)? This is anything, what even windozes are able to do (in there 
buggy, braindamaged way), and yes, most x-proggies can be tuned thru 
app-defaults, resp. -geometry  switch. But is this the sense of a fancy
UI?
Tweaking config files and start commands?

You can see me everytime, I start netscape, moving it's windows to the
same old
positions. This goes for the different kppp windows, kscd, kfm, kpm...

But I'm a lucky guy: autostarting 2 xosview's (one remote), it's windows 
appear in always the same positions, thanks to tweaking the app-defaults
files.
On the other side, the KDE tool klipper needed a softlink in Autostart
to
get it running every time, an remote xterm with something like:

rstart huhu xterm -fg MediumSpringGreen -bg black +sb -title huhu-syslog 
-fn 6x10 -fb 6x10 -geometry 80x24-192-45 -e su -c 'less +F
/var/log/messages'

starts automatically from session mgmt, but looses in the moment, when
you 
entered the root password (tried with preceeding backspaces, too), when
started
manually, it works for sure...

My personal KDE wishlist: 
improvements in session mgmt, window positioning policy, and speed
(iconcache).

Thanks for listening
Hans-Peter

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