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Subject: Re: GSOC
From: Alberto Pastrolin <albertopastrolin () gmail ! com>
Date: 2013-04-26 10:25:51
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To describe it more clearly I will use a list, if for you this isn't clear
I will retry to explain:
1) How to intercept the notification into Android: To intercept every
notification we need to use an AccessibilityService (this is an example
code that I've found<http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9367196/detect-a-ne=
w-android-notification/9632076#9632076>),
but it has the inconvenient that the user must enable manually the
permissions for the app to work (and also the app will never be pubblished
on the Play Store for security reason); it is also possible to do something
less powerful, but also without the workaround for the permission, using
some BroadcastReceiver<http://developer.android.com/reference/android/conte=
nt/BroadcastReceiver.html>:
it can be used to intercept a specific event (eg, a new SMS, or low
battery), so in the end it will be useful for our integration
2) How to intercept the notification into the KDE Workspace: Well, if I am
correct, we simpy need to get them from Dbus, in Python for example it is
possibile to use the dbus class; in C++ probably it exists a similar class,
so it will be possible to do the same, but I think that you or any other
KDE developers know this things better than me
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3) Sharing the notifications: Probably this is the most important thing, to
do it over the web we need to create a packet with the notification itself
and other information, and to send/receiving them I've thinked to use some
socket, so we need to decide the port for this socket.
4) Showing the notification: After we have received the notification, we
obviously need to show it: on Android we can do it using a
NotificationManager<http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/Noti=
ficationManager.html>,
and on KDE we can do it simpy generating a Knotify event
For now this is what I have thinked, if you have other ideas or suggestion
please write them, I will try to reply
Best Regards,
Alberto Pastrolin
2013/4/24 =C0lex Fiestas <afiestas@kde.org>
> On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Alberto Pastrolin <
> albertopastrolin@gmail.com> wrote:
>
>> well, I've thinked to pair the devices using an app on Android and
>> something else on KDE (maybe a program to configure it, or simply adding
>> the integration into the system settings); an application IMHO is the be=
st
>> solution because in this way we can pair the device over the web, and no=
t
>> only with a cable, and in this way we can integrate them even when the
>> devices aren't in the same position (ie, you can check the notifications=
of
>> KDE from your smartphone when you aren't at home); a more concrete examp=
le
>> that you can also try is an app called Airdroid, I've thinked at somethi=
ng
>> similar to pair the devices.
>> The notifications can be shown on Android into the statusbar (or using
>> some toast, but I think that the statusbar notifications are a more eleg=
ant
>> solution), so the user can see them immediately, without opening an app =
to
>> check them (also the newest version of the Android API give us the
>> possibility to interact with this notifications); into KDE, as I have
>> already proposed, we can use Knotify to show the notifications that come
>> from Android, but I think that with this solution we can't do things mor=
e
>> advanced (I've started to look better the documentation, but for what I'=
ve
>> seen it isn't possible to, for example, reply to an SMS from Knotify).
>> With this solution I think that is possibile to share only the
>> notifications and (with some more work) the classic thing that Android
>> permit to share (so photos, link, etcetera), if we want something more
>> advanced (like manipulating the file system) we need something more comp=
lex
>> on both side.
>>
>
> It sounds good enough, now can you do the same description but this time
> explaining how you are planning to integratethis technically?
>
>
>> Also can i ask you a thing? Now it is possible for the students to send
>> our proposal, but I've thinked that it wouldn't be correct to send this
>> proposal if it doesn't soddisfy you: so for you is ok if I send it?
>>
> Since we are having a lot of proposals for this GSoC I recommend you
> submit it first, and then we continue the discussion there.
>
> Cheers,
>
>
> >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
> unsubscribe <<
>
>
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<div dir="ltr"><div><div>To describe it more clearly I will use a list, if for you \
this isn't clear I will retry to explain:<br><br></div>1) How to intercept the \
notification into Android: To intercept every notification we need to use an \
AccessibilityService (<a \
href="http://stackoverflow.com/questions/9367196/detect-a-new-android-notification/9632076#9632076">this \
is an example code that I've found</a>), but it has the inconvenient that the \
user must enable manually the permissions for the app to work (and also the app will \
never be pubblished on the Play Store for security reason); it is also possible to do \
something less powerful, but also without the workaround for the permission, using \
some <a href="http://developer.android.com/reference/android/content/BroadcastReceiver.html">BroadcastReceiver</a>: \
it can be used to intercept a specific event (eg, a new SMS, or low battery), so in \
the end it will be useful for our integration<br>
<br></div>2) How to intercept the notification into the KDE Workspace: Well, if I am \
correct, we simpy need to get them from Dbus, in Python for example it is possibile \
to use the dbus class; in C++ probably it exists a similar class, so it will be \
possible to do the same, but I think that you or any other KDE developers know this \
things better than me<br>
<div><div><div><div style id="bikatoc"><a class="">Close</a><div \
class=""><ul></ul></div></div></div></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra">3) Sharing the notifications: Probably this is the most important \
thing, to do it over the web we need to create a packet with the notification itself \
and other information, and to send/receiving them I've thinked to use some \
socket, so we need to decide the port for this socket.<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">4) Showing the notification: After we have \
received the notification, we obviously need to show it: on Android we can do it \
using a <a href="http://developer.android.com/reference/android/app/NotificationManager.html">NotificationManager</a>, \
and on KDE we can do it simpy generating a Knotify event<br>
<br></div><div class="gmail_extra">For now this is what I have thinked, if you have \
other ideas or suggestion please write them, I will try to reply<br><br></div><div \
class="gmail_extra">Best Regards,<br>Alberto Pastrolin<br>
</div><div class="gmail_extra"><br><div class="gmail_quote">2013/4/24 Àlex Fiestas \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:afiestas@kde.org" \
target="_blank">afiestas@kde.org</a>></span><br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
<div dir="ltr"><div class="im">On Wed, Apr 24, 2013 at 11:08 AM, Alberto Pastrolin \
<span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:albertopastrolin@gmail.com" \
target="_blank">albertopastrolin@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br></div>
<div class="gmail_extra">
<div class="gmail_quote"><div class="im"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" \
style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div \
dir="ltr"><div><div><div><div><div>well, I've thinked to pair the devices using \
an app on Android and something else on KDE (maybe a program to configure it, or \
simply adding the integration into the system settings); an application IMHO is the \
best solution because in this way we can pair the device over the web, and not only \
with a cable, and in this way we can integrate them even when the devices aren't \
in the same position (ie, you can check the notifications of KDE from your smartphone \
when you aren't at home); a more concrete example that you can also try is an app \
called Airdroid, I've thinked at something similar to pair the devices.<br>
</div>The notifications can be shown on Android into the statusbar (or using some \
toast, but I think that the statusbar notifications are a more elegant solution), so \
the user can see them immediately, without opening an app to check them (also the \
newest version of the Android API give us the possibility to interact with this \
notifications); into KDE, as I have already proposed, we can use Knotify to show the \
notifications that come from Android, but I think that with this solution we \
can't do things more advanced (I've started to look better the documentation, \
but for what I've seen it isn't possible to, for example, reply to an SMS \
from Knotify).<br>
</div>With this solution I think that is possibile to share only the notifications \
and (with some more work) the classic thing that Android permit to share (so photos, \
link, etcetera), if we want something more advanced (like manipulating the file \
system) we need something more complex on both side.<br>
</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div></div><div>It sounds good \
enough, now can you do the same description but this time explaining how you are \
planning to integratethis technically?</div><div class="im">
<div><br></div>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc \
solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div><div><div>
<br></div>Also can i ask you a thing? Now it is possible for the students to send our \
proposal, but I've thinked that it wouldn't be correct to send this proposal \
if it doesn't soddisfy you: so for you is ok if I send it?<br>
</div></div></div></blockquote></div><div>Since we are having a lot of proposals for \
this GSoC I recommend you submit it first, and then we continue the discussion \
there.</div><div><br></div><div>Cheers,</div> </div></div></div>
<br><br>
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