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Subject: Re: KDE 4.2.0 issues
From: Wang Hoi <zealot.hoi () gmail ! com>
Date: 2009-02-26 10:38:04
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It's not a good idea to restore the kdesu'ed apps.
Maybe we can just restore to the password popup stage.
And it's not comfortable to popup serveral dialogs and ask you for password
when boot your machine.
There must be priviledge escalation to "correctly" restore kdesu apps which
is dangerous.
I remember that under Windows, it has a feature to restore the last opened
file explorer.
And M$ release a series of patch to fix security holes it introduces without
loose this feature.
Yours,
Resgards
2009/2/26 Robin Atwood <robin@binro.org>
> On Thursday 26 Feb 2009, Robin Atwood wrote:
> > On Thursday 26 Feb 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote:
> > > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Robin Atwood <robin@binro.org> wrote:
> > > > Is it just me or does the Session Management completely ignore apps
> > > > started under kdesu?
> > >
> > > Do you expect kde to remember your root password too? :-)
> >
> > Idiots. It doesn't need to to, I am in the wheel group and PAM is
> > configured so the password is not necessary. All of which is completely
> > irrelevant, this worked flawlessly under KDE < 4 and it would be nice if
> it
> > still did. Some of us have to actually maintain systems. This is actually
> a
> > show-stopper for me rolling out KDE 4.2 out onto production systems.
>
> Having just reviewed my post I realise I over-reacted and was rude for
> which I
> apologise. This comes from responding to mail very late at night when I was
> tired and irritable and is not recommended. I shall revert to my normal
> charming self henceforth! So let's calm down and move on.
>
> The technical issue remains, however, wrt applications running as root and
> session management. I assume from the replies I got that I have not done
> something wrong and my config files are not corrupt. In previous versions
> of
> KDE there were always menu entries under System for starting the file
> manager
> and Kate as super-user and session management for these was transparent. So
> is the omission in KDE 4.2 just that, an omission, or on a todo list, a bug
> or policy?
>
> Once again, apologies.
> -Robin
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> Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"
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It's not a good idea to restore the kdesu'ed apps.<br>Maybe we can just \
restore to the password popup stage.<br>And it's not comfortable to popup \
serveral dialogs and ask you for password when boot your machine.<br> There must be \
priviledge escalation to "correctly" restore kdesu apps which is \
dangerous.<br>I remember that under Windows, it has a feature to restore the last \
opened file explorer. <br>And M$ release a series of patch to fix security holes it \
introduces without loose this feature.<br> <br>Yours,<br>Resgards<br><br><br><div \
class="gmail_quote">2009/2/26 Robin Atwood <span dir="ltr"><<a \
href="mailto:robin@binro.org">robin@binro.org</a>></span><br><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> <div class="Ih2E3d">On Thursday 26 Feb 2009, Robin \
Atwood wrote:<br> > On Thursday 26 Feb 2009, Norberto Bensa wrote:<br>
> > On Wed, Feb 25, 2009 at 2:35 PM, Robin Atwood <<a \
href="mailto:robin@binro.org">robin@binro.org</a>> wrote:<br> > > > Is it \
just me or does the Session Management completely ignore apps<br> > > > \
started under kdesu?<br> > ><br>
> > Do you expect kde to remember your root password too? :-)<br>
><br>
> Idiots. It doesn't need to to, I am in the wheel group and PAM is<br>
> configured so the password is not necessary. All of which is completely<br>
> irrelevant, this worked flawlessly under KDE < 4 and it would be nice if \
it<br> > still did. Some of us have to actually maintain systems. This is actually \
a<br> > show-stopper for me rolling out KDE 4.2 out onto production systems.<br>
<br>
</div>Having just reviewed my post I realise I over-reacted and was rude for which \
I<br> apologise. This comes from responding to mail very late at night when I was<br>
tired and irritable and is not recommended. I shall revert to my normal<br>
charming self henceforth! So let's calm down and move on.<br>
<br>
The technical issue remains, however, wrt applications running as root and<br>
session management. I assume from the replies I got that I have not done<br>
something wrong and my config files are not corrupt. In previous versions of<br>
KDE there were always menu entries under System for starting the file manager<br>
and Kate as super-user and session management for these was transparent. So<br>
is the omission in KDE 4.2 just that, an omission, or on a todo list, a bug<br>
or policy?<br>
<br>
Once again, apologies.<br>
<div><div></div><div class="Wj3C7c">-Robin<br>
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"Ship me somewheres east of Suez, where the best is like the worst,<br>
Where there ain't no Ten Commandments an' a man can raise a thirst"<br>
from "Mandalay" by Rudyard Kipling<br>
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