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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: [Fwd: Re: Feeding trolls]
From:       "=?ISO-8859-1?Q?F=E1bio_Firmo?=" <fabio.a.firmo () gmail ! com>
Date:       2008-06-10 20:01:21
Message-ID: 2ac835d40806101301o33e033deyff8bf23c71dedf7d () mail ! gmail ! com
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Hmm, someone told me this is the place to ask some questions about
Kparts, qt slots and that kind of stuff. I think he pointed me the
wrong list.

That's exactly why I quit reading this list some months ago. When one
have to search the mail lists archives for arguments something is
really wrong.

Just a few words: let it go.

2008/6/10 James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.org>:
> I am not going to reply to this any further since Nathan Bradshaw's postings
> to this thread have degenerated into gratuitous insults.  This thread
> started out as a legitimate argument and like all such threads, it became a
> bit off topic.  But, he is way over the line and I ask that you please look
> at his recent postings to this thread.
>
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121311705402053&w=2
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121312336013483&w=2
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121312383214404&w=2
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121312482816133&w=2
> http://lists.kde.org/?l=kde-devel&m=121312527116837&w=2
>
> I presume that deliberate insults and personal attacks are not permitted on
> this list.
>
> I am adding him to my kill file, but that won't help the others on the list.
>
> --
> JRT
>
>
> -------- Original Message --------
> Subject:        Re: Feeding trolls
> Date:   Tue, 10 Jun 2008 15:05:47 -0400
> From:   Nathan Bradshaw <nathanlbradshaw@gmail.com>
> Reply-To:       kde-devel@kde.org
> To:     kde-devel@kde.org
> References:
> <7d284b930806071511w1a543c67r9960736e2ce46c1a@mail.gmail.com>
> <484E919E.2070902@acm.org>
> <92af7fc70806100917p64d512d2waac37a1199561de0@mail.gmail.com>
> <200806102033.22213.boud@valdyas.org> <484ECE06.5010206@acm.org>
>
>
>
> wow, did you read the second link? it must have been like looking in a
> mirror or something. I don't suppose it actually had any impact on you,
> but man... spooky heh?
>
> On Tue, Jun 10, 2008 at 2:55 PM, James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.org
> <mailto:tyrerj@acm.org>> wrote:
>
>    Boudewijn Rempt wrote:
>     > On Tuesday 10 June 2008, Nathan Bradshaw wrote:
>     >> you have brought absolutely nothing of value to this list. This is a
>     >> development list and you've devolved it into a showcase for your
>    petty
>     >> banter and weird, deranged personal agenda with Aaron.
>     >
>     > In fact, this thread shows to a nicety what Sussman calls
>    "poisonous people"
>     > can do to a project
>     > (http://www.slideshare.net/oscon2007/os-fitzpatrick-sussman).
>    He's more
>     > guarded in his book
>     >
>
> (http://producingoss.com/en/producingoss.html#handling-difficult-people),
>    but
>     > it's the same thing: people who contribute little but drain the
>    energy of the
>     > people who actually do the work by starting the same
>     > unproductive "discussions" over and over.
>
>    Doesn't justify NB's ad hominem attacks.  In fact, you might think that
>    those that resort to personal attacks are the real "poisonous people".
>
>     > Small wonder Aaron gets fed up: he and the plasma people have created
>     > something really great, flexbile and powerful that makes my daughters
>     > go "wow!" when they see my desktop -- and all these self-righteous
>     > do-nothings do is yammering for something they've got already and
>    demanding
>     > that people spend valuable time paying attention to them. These
>    people are
>     > pure poison to a free software project.
>
>    Yep, you are clearly one of those that think that "user" should be
>    spelled with an 'l' (looser).
>
>    Aaron gets fed up because he has an attitude problem.  He seems to have
>    a need to tell users that make suggestions that they are wrong. This is
>    a useless waste of his time.  I will not say that he is poisonous, but
>    this is clearly dysfunctional.
>
>    Users pay his salary and he should accept their feedback and treat them
>    with respect.  But he does not respect users.
>
>    You don't have my email, which I posted in direct response to a request
>    by another developer, where I listed some of the features I found
>    missing in the current desktop.  What did Aaron do, he went through it
>    line by line telling me that I was wrong without really reading and
>    understanding what I said.  I posted a reply and he did the same thing.
>     Sometimes his micro replies to parts of a paragraph contradict each
>    other.
>
>    It takes two to make an argument and Aaron chooses to argue with users.
>
>    --
>    JRT
>
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