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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Fork of KDE4/Qt3?
From:       "Aaron J. Seigo" <aseigo () kde ! org>
Date:       2008-06-10 3:20:38
Message-ID: 200806092120.38936.aseigo () kde ! org
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On Monday 09 June 2008, James Richard Tyrer wrote:
> Having things settable only by dragging is an accessibility issue not to
> mention 

the a11y issue is actually quite solvable, making it no different than a spin 
box for assisted technologies.

> a usability issue.

to quote princess bride, "you keep using that word, but i do not think it 
means what you think it means."

> Sticky points are a poor substitute for the dialog in KDE3.  It is a bad
> idea to set the panel to small sizes that require icons smaller than
> 32x32 unless one of the two sizes (16x16 or 22x22) are chosen.

we can make sticky points in as many points as we want.

> Why not just add a button "Set Size" to open a dialog similar to KDE3.

because we'd need to add a dialog for every single such feature. it's not a 
solution that scales.

> Actually, it looks to me that you are going to have to have a (general)
> configuration dialog if the Panel is going to be fully configurable.

interestingly, the code is proving otherwise.

> > in plamsa you just put up a panel, put a taskbar in it and you're done.
> > replace taskbar for whatever applet(s) you wish.
>
> You are partially correct.  It doesn't need to be a Panel. 

glad we agree.

> But ... (see below).

see below, indeed.

> >> and it isn't very useful if it
> >> doesn't have autohide and/or a hot spot on the edge of the screen.
> >
> > you coverd this elsewhere in your mail, has nothing to do with the
> > taskbar.
>
> The KDE3 External Taskbar has autohide.  Will the KDE4 Taskbar widget
> have autohide, or will you have to put it in a Panel to have this feature?

<repeat>panels will have autohide</repeat>

> >> Second, it does not work vertically.
> >
> > define "does not work".
>
> If resized to a vertical aspect, you do not get a vertical list.  Just
> try it.  Or see attached KDE3 screen shot.

or see this kde4 screen shot:

	http://plasma.kde.org/media/vertical_taskbar_kde4.png

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Aaron J. Seigo
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