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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: The number of unassigned bugs is worrisome
From:       Thiago Macieira <thiago () kde ! org>
Date:       2006-01-12 0:34:53
Message-ID: 200601112234.54460.thiago () kde ! org
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Mark Hellman wrote:
>I think this list is special because it is ordered by the number of
> votes. It means that more than one person has noticed the bug and felt
> annoyed enough to go to bugzilla and vote for it. This list is 579 long
> (not including the UNCONFIRMED). And from these 579 only 25 are
> ASSIGNED. I must underline: only 4% of the bugs that annoy people the
> most are being taken care of. Isn't this worrisome?

The list includes ALL bugs that have more than 20 votes. That means at 
least 2 people in most cases.

But, considering that it is common practice to vote 20 for your own bugs, 
any one person can get a bug in that list. Also, please remember that 
there are people who register more than one account in Bugzilla to 
increase the vote count. And finally, I can bet a good portion of those 
reports there are no longer valid.

That said, however, yes, the bug count worries me. Every week, when I take 
a look at the "Weekly statistics", I get worried. Week after week more 
bugs are reported than bugs are fixed.

So users are generating more bugs than we can handle. Conclusion: the list 
will only grow. There's no way around it, except manpower.

>> No. We're working on KDE4. We cannot afford more delays. We don't have
>> enough manpower to do otherwise.
>
>I understand the lack of manpower. But, correct if I am wrong, most of
> those 579 bugs will transit to KDE 4. I do not see anything
> KDE3-specific in most of them. And one of the most disappointing
> experiences for a user is to try a new major version of a software and
> find his most hated bugs there...

Right. What I mean is: we cannot afford to divert manpower to fixing those 
bugs in the 3.5 tree. That, in turn, means we have to work on 4.0 and let 
those bugs be for a while. We're still working on getting kdelibs 
compiling at this stage. Fixing bugs from bugzilla which may or may no 
longer be valid is the least of the worries.

We don't know when KDE 4.0 will be released. We'd like to have it out in 
10 months, but realistically, I don't think it'll be out in less than 18. 
That includes a long period of testing, to spot the greatest regressions 
and bugs, which in turn should include those on your list.

In summary, there's nothing we can do about the list that keeps growing 
that we're not already doing.

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