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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Alternative to traditional (virtual) desktop: The Strip
From:       Janne Ojaniemi <janne.ojaniemi () nbl ! fi>
Date:       2005-12-11 12:32:16
Message-ID: 200512111432.16937.janne.ojaniemi () nbl ! fi
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On Saturday 10 December 2005 15:35, Lubos Lunak wrote:

>Your mail, just like the others in this
> thread, lacks one important thing that prevented KDE from being yet another
> long-forgotten something from the 90's - something along the lines of "I
> will work on it".

Speaking for myself here: I'm not a coder. I couldn't code my way out of an 
empty room if I had to. Does that mean that my suggestions are less valid?

> If it's just accidentally missing, you are welcome to 
> join kwin@kde.org . If not, then just submit your wish at bugs.kde.org and
> wait until the kwin team gets to it.

I thought about doing that, yes. But I decided to first find out what other 
thought of the idea. Healthy discussion is a good thing, and I think this 
place has better potential for that than bugs.kde.org. After the idea has 
been refined, it could be submitted to b.k.o.

> Anybody
> can have ideas, but they don't magically become reality, somebody has to
> write and maintain that. Sorry for spoiling the fun, but that's the way it
> is.

I don't think anyone here has said "I want this feature NOW! Get coding you 
lazy bastards!". It was more like a "Here's a nifty idea, what do you guys 
think? Could something like this be done?". No-one is expecting this feature 
to magically appear from thin air.

Or should I intrepet your mail so that only those who can code are allowed to 
have ideas and suggestions? If some non-coder makes a suggestion, the 
suggestion should be ignored. And only coders can discuss things.

If that is the way you feel, then I'm afraid that KDE will remain "designed by 
coders, for coders"-desktop, and we can forget about "conquering the 
desktop"-thingy, since 99% of people are not coders. How do coders know how 
non-coders use their computers? Are coders experts in usability and look & 
feel? I'm not saying that I'm an expert on those fields, but fact remains 
that coders know code. But that doesn't mean that they know every other thing 
as well inside out. And just because someone is not a coder does not mean 
that their suggestions should be ignored.

Designing a modern GUI requires cooperation from several groups. Coders are 
just one of them. But I can't help but feel that in KDE and open source in 
general, the coders are the one who make decisions, while others play second 
fiddle. Regardless of the fact that their input would be just as important in 
the grand scheme of things.
 
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