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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Default Fonts in KDE
From:       Alan Ezust <alan.ezust () gmail ! com>
Date:       2005-07-16 14:02:42
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the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:
> if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from

> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt<http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt>
> 

> This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk 
styles
and fonts.

apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt


On 7/11/05, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR@movingparts.net> wrote:
> 
> I've been plagued by this many times in the past too. I don't use any 
> gnome
> applications anymore, don't use gnome-settings-daemon, so don't have this
> problem currently, but still I would LOVE to find out why this happens.
> 
> On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust wrote:
> > The default fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and then
> > suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which 
> previously
> > were too small) become the correct size.
> > 
> > I've been unable to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up.
> > 
> > On 7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.org> wrote:
> > > Heinrich Wendel wrote:
> > > > I think many people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even 
> on
> > > > bugs.kde.org <http://bugs.kde.org> <http://bugs.kde.org>. The 
> default Fonts in KDE are not
> > > 
> > > very well choosen.
> > > 
> > > > There are two problems:
> > > > 
> > > > 1.) They point to values that are either not installed on many 
> systems
> > > 
> > > or not
> > > 
> > > > Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are 
> broken,
> > > 
> > > but
> > > 
> > > > they are not. Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for this 
> to
> > > > change the default values to "sans", "serif" and "monotype", so
> > > 
> > > fontconfig
> > > 
> > > > can take care of it. If this raises Problems on distributions 
> without
> > > > fontconfig (any distribution out there without fontconfig? i don't
> > > > think
> > > 
> > > so)
> > > 
> > > > we can put ifdefs around this.
> > > 
> > > Yes this change should be made to replace Helvetica with "Sans Serif".
> > > This is probably OK to replace Courier with "Monospace" as well since
> > > the Type1 Courier that comes with XFree86 is quite old.
> > > 
> > > XFree86 and Xorg now ship with FontConfig so it shouldn't be a 
> problem.
> > > 
> > > > 2.) The size of the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to
> > > > 10points.
> > > 
> > > I don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you have a 1024x768 screen
> > > set to 100 DPI?
> > > 
> > > --
> > > JRT
> > > 
> > > > > Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
> > > 
> > > unsubscribe <<
> 
> --
> 
> ,-----------------------------------------------------------------//
> > Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26
> `
> > All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
> > in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
> > the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
> ,
> > bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
> `----------------------//
> 



-- 
University of Victoria
Department of Computer Science
Victoria, BC, Canada


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the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:<br>
&gt; if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from<br>
<br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt" target="_blank">&gt; \
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt</a><br> <br>
&gt; This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk styles<br>
and fonts.<br>
<br>
apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt<br>
<br>
<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/11/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jason \
'vanRijn' Kasper</b> &lt;<a \
href="mailto:vR@movingparts.net">vR@movingparts.net</a>&gt; wrote:</span><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I've been plagued by this many times in the past \
too.&nbsp;&nbsp; I don't use any gnome<br>applications anymore, don't use \
gnome-settings-daemon, so don't have this<br>problem currently, but still I would \
LOVE to find out why this happens. <br><br>On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust \
wrote:<br>&gt; The default fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and \
then<br>&gt; suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which \
previously<br> &gt; were too small) become the correct size.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; I've \
been unable to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up.<br>&gt;<br>&gt; On \
7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer &lt;<a href="mailto:tyrerj@acm.org">tyrerj@acm.org \
</a>&gt; wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; Heinrich Wendel wrote:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; I think many \
people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even on<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; <a \
href="http://bugs.kde.org">bugs.kde.org</a> &lt;<a href="http://bugs.kde.org"> \
http://bugs.kde.org</a>&gt;. The default Fonts in KDE are not<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; \
&gt; very well choosen.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; There are two \
problems:<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; 1.) They point to values that are \
either not installed on many systems <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; or not<br>&gt; \
&gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are \
broken,<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; but<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; they are not. \
Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for this to <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; change \
the default values to &quot;sans&quot;, &quot;serif&quot; and &quot;monotype&quot;, \
so<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; fontconfig<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; can take care \
of it. If this raises Problems on distributions without <br>&gt; &gt; &gt; fontconfig \
(any distribution out there without fontconfig? i don't<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; \
think<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; so)<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; we can put ifdefs \
around this.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; Yes this change should be made to replace \
Helvetica with &quot;Sans Serif&quot;. <br>&gt; &gt; This is probably OK to replace \
Courier with &quot;Monospace&quot; as well since<br>&gt; &gt; the Type1 Courier that \
comes with XFree86 is quite old.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; XFree86 and Xorg now ship \
with FontConfig so it shouldn't be a problem. <br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; 2.) The \
size of the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to<br>&gt; &gt; &gt; \
10points.<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; I don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you \
have a 1024x768 screen<br> &gt; &gt; set to 100 DPI?<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; \
--<br>&gt; &gt; JRT<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; &gt;&gt; Visit <a \
href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub
 </a> to<br>&gt; &gt;<br>&gt; &gt; unsubscribe \
&lt;&lt;<br><br>--<br><br>,-----------------------------------------------------------------//<br>| \
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper ::&nbsp;&nbsp;Numbers 6:22-26<br> `<br> | All brontosauruses \
are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker <br> | in the middle, and then thin again at \
the far end.&nbsp;&nbsp;That is<br> | the theory that I have and which is mine, and \
what it is too.<br> ,<br>| bash$ :(){ \
:|:&amp;};:<br>`----------------------//<br></blockquote></div><br> <br><br>-- \
<br>University of Victoria<br>Department of Computer Science<br>Victoria, BC, \
Canada<br>



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