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Subject: Re: Default Fonts in KDE
From: Alan Ezust <alan.ezust () gmail ! com>
Date: 2005-07-16 14:02:42
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the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:
> if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt<http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt>
>
> This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk
styles
and fonts.
apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
On 7/11/05, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR@movingparts.net> wrote:
>
> I've been plagued by this many times in the past too. I don't use any
> gnome
> applications anymore, don't use gnome-settings-daemon, so don't have this
> problem currently, but still I would LOVE to find out why this happens.
>
> On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust wrote:
> > The default fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and then
> > suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which
> previously
> > were too small) become the correct size.
> >
> > I've been unable to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up.
> >
> > On 7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.org> wrote:
> > > Heinrich Wendel wrote:
> > > > I think many people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even
> on
> > > > bugs.kde.org <http://bugs.kde.org> <http://bugs.kde.org>. The
> default Fonts in KDE are not
> > >
> > > very well choosen.
> > >
> > > > There are two problems:
> > > >
> > > > 1.) They point to values that are either not installed on many
> systems
> > >
> > > or not
> > >
> > > > Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are
> broken,
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > > > they are not. Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for this
> to
> > > > change the default values to "sans", "serif" and "monotype", so
> > >
> > > fontconfig
> > >
> > > > can take care of it. If this raises Problems on distributions
> without
> > > > fontconfig (any distribution out there without fontconfig? i don't
> > > > think
> > >
> > > so)
> > >
> > > > we can put ifdefs around this.
> > >
> > > Yes this change should be made to replace Helvetica with "Sans Serif".
> > > This is probably OK to replace Courier with "Monospace" as well since
> > > the Type1 Courier that comes with XFree86 is quite old.
> > >
> > > XFree86 and Xorg now ship with FontConfig so it shouldn't be a
> problem.
> > >
> > > > 2.) The size of the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to
> > > > 10points.
> > >
> > > I don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you have a 1024x768 screen
> > > set to 100 DPI?
> > >
> > > --
> > > JRT
> > >
> > > > > Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe <<
>
> --
>
> ,-----------------------------------------------------------------//
> > Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26
> `
> > All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
> > in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
> > the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
> ,
> > bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
> `----------------------//
>
--
University of Victoria
Department of Computer Science
Victoria, BC, Canada
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the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:<br>
> if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from<br>
<br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt" target="_blank">> \
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt</a><br> <br>
> This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk styles<br>
and fonts.<br>
<br>
apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt<br>
<br>
<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/11/05, <b class="gmail_sendername">Jason \
'vanRijn' Kasper</b> <<a \
href="mailto:vR@movingparts.net">vR@movingparts.net</a>> wrote:</span><blockquote \
class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt \
0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I've been plagued by this many times in the past \
too. I don't use any gnome<br>applications anymore, don't use \
gnome-settings-daemon, so don't have this<br>problem currently, but still I would \
LOVE to find out why this happens. <br><br>On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust \
wrote:<br>> The default fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and \
then<br>> suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which \
previously<br> > were too small) become the correct size.<br>><br>> I've \
been unable to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up.<br>><br>> On \
7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer <<a href="mailto:tyrerj@acm.org">tyrerj@acm.org \
</a>> wrote:<br>> > Heinrich Wendel wrote:<br>> > > I think many \
people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even on<br>> > > <a \
href="http://bugs.kde.org">bugs.kde.org</a> <<a href="http://bugs.kde.org"> \
http://bugs.kde.org</a>>. The default Fonts in KDE are not<br>> ><br>> \
> very well choosen.<br>> ><br>> > > There are two \
problems:<br>> > ><br>> > > 1.) They point to values that are \
either not installed on many systems <br>> ><br>> > or not<br>> \
><br>> > > Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are \
broken,<br>> ><br>> > but<br>> ><br>> > > they are not. \
Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for this to <br>> > > change \
the default values to "sans", "serif" and "monotype", \
so<br>> ><br>> > fontconfig<br>> ><br>> > > can take care \
of it. If this raises Problems on distributions without <br>> > > fontconfig \
(any distribution out there without fontconfig? i don't<br>> > > \
think<br>> ><br>> > so)<br>> ><br>> > > we can put ifdefs \
around this.<br>> ><br>> > Yes this change should be made to replace \
Helvetica with "Sans Serif". <br>> > This is probably OK to replace \
Courier with "Monospace" as well since<br>> > the Type1 Courier that \
comes with XFree86 is quite old.<br>> ><br>> > XFree86 and Xorg now ship \
with FontConfig so it shouldn't be a problem. <br>> ><br>> > > 2.) The \
size of the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to<br>> > > \
10points.<br>> ><br>> > I don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you \
have a 1024x768 screen<br> > > set to 100 DPI?<br>> ><br>> > \
--<br>> > JRT<br>> ><br>> > >> Visit <a \
href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub
</a> to<br>> ><br>> > unsubscribe \
<<<br><br>--<br><br>,-----------------------------------------------------------------//<br>| \
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26<br> `<br> | All brontosauruses \
are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker <br> | in the middle, and then thin again at \
the far end. That is<br> | the theory that I have and which is mine, and \
what it is too.<br> ,<br>| bash$ :(){ \
:|:&};:<br>`----------------------//<br></blockquote></div><br> <br><br>-- \
<br>University of Victoria<br>Department of Computer Science<br>Victoria, BC, \
Canada<br>
=
>> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to unsubscrib=
e <<
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