From kde-devel Sat Jul 16 14:02:42 2005 From: Alan Ezust Date: Sat, 16 Jul 2005 14:02:42 +0000 To: kde-devel Subject: Re: Default Fonts in KDE Message-Id: X-MARC-Message: https://marc.info/?l=kde-devel&m=112152258920342 MIME-Version: 1 Content-Type: multipart/mixed; boundary="--===============1338286699==" --===============1338286699== Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_Part_3647_32328836.1121522562847" ------=_Part_3647_32328836.1121522562847 Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem: > if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from > http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt > This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk=20 styles and fonts. apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt On 7/11/05, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper wrote: >=20 > I've been plagued by this many times in the past too. I don't use any=20 > gnome > applications anymore, don't use gnome-settings-daemon, so don't have this > problem currently, but still I would LOVE to find out why this happens. >=20 > On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust wrote: > > The default fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and then > > suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which=20 > previously > > were too small) become the correct size. > > > > I've been unable to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up. > > > > On 7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer wrote: > > > Heinrich Wendel wrote: > > > > I think many people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even= =20 > on > > > > bugs.kde.org . The=20 > default Fonts in KDE are not > > > > > > very well choosen. > > > > > > > There are two problems: > > > > > > > > 1.) They point to values that are either not installed on many=20 > systems > > > > > > or not > > > > > > > Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are=20 > broken, > > > > > > but > > > > > > > they are not. Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for thi= s=20 > to > > > > change the default values to "sans", "serif" and "monotype", so > > > > > > fontconfig > > > > > > > can take care of it. If this raises Problems on distributions=20 > without > > > > fontconfig (any distribution out there without fontconfig? i don't > > > > think > > > > > > so) > > > > > > > we can put ifdefs around this. > > > > > > Yes this change should be made to replace Helvetica with "Sans Serif"= . > > > This is probably OK to replace Courier with "Monospace" as well since > > > the Type1 Courier that comes with XFree86 is quite old. > > > > > > XFree86 and Xorg now ship with FontConfig so it shouldn't be a=20 > problem. > > > > > > > 2.) The size of the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to > > > > 10points. > > > > > > I don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you have a 1024x768 screen > > > set to 100 DPI? > > > > > > -- > > > JRT > > > > > > >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to > > > > > > unsubscribe << >=20 > -- >=20 > ,-----------------------------------------------------------------// > | Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26 > ` > | All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker > | in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is > | the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too. > , > | bash$ :(){ :|:&};: > `----------------------// >=20 --=20 University of Victoria Department of Computer Science Victoria, BC, Canada ------=_Part_3647_32328836.1121522562847 Content-Type: text/html; charset=ISO-8859-1 Content-Transfer-Encoding: quoted-printable Content-Disposition: inline the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:
> if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from

> http:/= /www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt

> This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk = styles
and fonts.

apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt


On 7/11/05, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR= @movingparts.net> wrote:
I've been plagued by this many times in the past too.   I don't u= se any gnome
applications anymore, don't use gnome-settings-daemon, so d= on't have this
problem currently, but still I would LOVE to find out why= this happens.

On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust wrote:
> The defau= lt fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and then
> sudde= nly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which previously
> were too small) become the correct size.
>
> I've been una= ble to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up.
>
> On 7/= 4/05, James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.= org > wrote:
> > Heinrich Wendel wrote:
> > > I thi= nk many people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even on
> &g= t; > bugs.kde.org < http://bugs.kde.org>. The default Fonts in KDE are not
> ><= br>> > very well choosen.
> >
> > > There are tw= o problems:
> > >
> > > 1.) They point to values th= at are either not installed on many systems
> >
> > or not
> >
> > > Antialiase= able. This is why many people think their Fonts are broken,
> >> > but
> >
> > > they are not. Just the Defaul= ts are broken. A very easy fix for this to
> > > change the default values to "sans", "ser= if" and "monotype", so
> >
> > fontconfig<= br>> >
> > > can take care of it. If this raises Problems= on distributions without
> > > fontconfig (any distribution out there without fontconfi= g? i don't
> > > think
> >
> > so)
> &g= t;
> > > we can put ifdefs around this.
> >
> &g= t; Yes this change should be made to replace Helvetica with "Sans Seri= f".
> > This is probably OK to replace Courier with "Monospace&q= uot; as well since
> > the Type1 Courier that comes with XFree86 i= s quite old.
> >
> > XFree86 and Xorg now ship with FontC= onfig so it shouldn't be a problem.
> >
> > > 2.) The size of the fonts is to big. I prop= ose to reduce it to
> > > 10points.
> >
> > I= don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you have a 1024x768 screen
> > set to 100 DPI?
> >
> > --
> > JRT
= > >
> > >> Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#= unsub to
> >
> > unsubscribe <<

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| the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
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| bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
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