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Subject: Re: Default Fonts in KDE
From: Alan Ezust <alan.ezust () gmail ! com>
Date: 2005-07-16 14:02:42
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the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:
> if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from
> http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt<http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt>
>
> This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk
styles
and fonts.
apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt
On 7/11/05, Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper <vR@movingparts.net> wrote:
>
> I've been plagued by this many times in the past too. I don't use any
> gnome
> applications anymore, don't use gnome-settings-daemon, so don't have this
> problem currently, but still I would LOVE to find out why this happens.
>
> On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust wrote:
> > The default fonts look fine until I run gnome-settings-daemon and then
> > suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too big. But the gnome fonts (which
> previously
> > were too small) become the correct size.
> >
> > I've been unable to get the gnome and kde fonts sizes matching up.
> >
> > On 7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj@acm.org> wrote:
> > > Heinrich Wendel wrote:
> > > > I think many people noticed it, but nobody seems to care, not even
> on
> > > > bugs.kde.org <http://bugs.kde.org> <http://bugs.kde.org>. The
> default Fonts in KDE are not
> > >
> > > very well choosen.
> > >
> > > > There are two problems:
> > > >
> > > > 1.) They point to values that are either not installed on many
> systems
> > >
> > > or not
> > >
> > > > Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are
> broken,
> > >
> > > but
> > >
> > > > they are not. Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for \
> > > > this
> to
> > > > change the default values to "sans", "serif" and "monotype", so
> > >
> > > fontconfig
> > >
> > > > can take care of it. If this raises Problems on distributions
> without
> > > > fontconfig (any distribution out there without fontconfig? i don't
> > > > think
> > >
> > > so)
> > >
> > > > we can put ifdefs around this.
> > >
> > > Yes this change should be made to replace Helvetica with "Sans \
> > > Serif". This is probably OK to replace Courier with "Monospace" as \
> > > well since the Type1 Courier that comes with XFree86 is quite old.
> > >
> > > XFree86 and Xorg now ship with FontConfig so it shouldn't be a
> problem.
> > >
> > > > 2.) The size of the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to
> > > > 10points.
> > >
> > > I don't see the fonts as being too big. Do you have a 1024x768 screen
> > > set to 100 DPI?
> > >
> > > --
> > > JRT
> > >
> > > > > Visit http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub to
> > >
> > > unsubscribe <<
>
> --
>
> ,-----------------------------------------------------------------//
> > Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26
> `
> > All brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker
> > in the middle, and then thin again at the far end. That is
> > the theory that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.
> ,
> > bash$ :(){ :|:&};:
> `----------------------//
>
--
University of Victoria
Department of Computer Science
Victoria, BC, Canada
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the response I got from Jes Hall had the exact solution to my problem:<br>
> if so, you should have a look at the gtk-qt engine from<br>
<br>
<a onclick="return top.js.OpenExtLink(window,event,this)" \
href="http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt" \
target="_blank">> \
http://www.freedesktop.org/wiki/Software_2fgtk_2dqt</a><br> <br>
> This gives you a KDE control centre module from which you can set gtk \
styles<br> and fonts.<br>
<br>
apt-get install gtk2-engines-gtk-qt<br>
<br>
<br><div><span class="gmail_quote">On 7/11/05, <b \
class="gmail_sendername">Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper</b> <<a \
href="mailto:vR@movingparts.net">vR@movingparts.net</a>> \
wrote:</span><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="border-left: 1px solid \
rgb(204, 204, 204); margin: 0pt 0pt 0pt 0.8ex; padding-left: 1ex;"> I've \
been plagued by this many times in the past too. I don't use \
any gnome<br>applications anymore, don't use gnome-settings-daemon, so \
don't have this<br>problem currently, but still I would LOVE to find out \
why this happens. <br><br>On Saturday 09 July 2005 21:07, Alan Ezust \
wrote:<br>> The default fonts look fine until I run \
gnome-settings-daemon and then<br>> suddenly kde fonts get WAAAY too \
big. But the gnome fonts (which previously<br> > were too small) become \
the correct size.<br>><br>> I've been unable to get the gnome and kde \
fonts sizes matching up.<br>><br>> On 7/4/05, James Richard Tyrer \
<<a href="mailto:tyrerj@acm.org">tyrerj@acm.org </a>> wrote:<br>> \
> Heinrich Wendel wrote:<br>> > > I think many people noticed \
it, but nobody seems to care, not even on<br>> > > <a \
href="http://bugs.kde.org">bugs.kde.org</a> <<a \
href="http://bugs.kde.org"> http://bugs.kde.org</a>>. The default Fonts \
in KDE are not<br>> ><br>> > very well choosen.<br>> \
><br>> > > There are two problems:<br>> > ><br>> \
> > 1.) They point to values that are either not installed on many \
systems <br>> ><br>> > or not<br>> ><br>> > > \
Antialiaseable. This is why many people think their Fonts are \
broken,<br>> ><br>> > but<br>> ><br>> > > they \
are not. Just the Defaults are broken. A very easy fix for this to <br>> \
> > change the default values to "sans", "serif" \
and "monotype", so<br>> ><br>> > fontconfig<br>> \
><br>> > > can take care of it. If this raises Problems on \
distributions without <br>> > > fontconfig (any distribution out \
there without fontconfig? i don't<br>> > > think<br>> \
><br>> > so)<br>> ><br>> > > we can put ifdefs \
around this.<br>> ><br>> > Yes this change should be made to \
replace Helvetica with "Sans Serif". <br>> > This is \
probably OK to replace Courier with "Monospace" as well \
since<br>> > the Type1 Courier that comes with XFree86 is quite \
old.<br>> ><br>> > XFree86 and Xorg now ship with FontConfig so \
it shouldn't be a problem. <br>> ><br>> > > 2.) The size of \
the fonts is to big. I propose to reduce it to<br>> > > \
10points.<br>> ><br>> > I don't see the fonts as being too big. \
Do you have a 1024x768 screen<br> > > set to 100 DPI?<br>> \
><br>> > --<br>> > JRT<br>> ><br>> > >> \
Visit <a href="http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub">http://mail.kde.org/mailman/listinfo/kde-devel#unsub
</a> to<br>> ><br>> > unsubscribe \
<<<br><br>--<br><br>,-----------------------------------------------------------------//<br>| \
Jason 'vanRijn' Kasper :: Numbers 6:22-26<br> `<br> | All \
brontosauruses are thin at one end, much MUCH thicker <br> | in the middle, \
and then thin again at the far end. That is<br> | the theory \
that I have and which is mine, and what it is too.<br> ,<br>| bash$ :(){ \
:|:&};:<br>`----------------------//<br></blockquote></div><br> \
<br><br>-- <br>University of Victoria<br>Department of Computer \
Science<br>Victoria, BC, Canada<br>
=
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