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Subject: Re: KDE development as a spectator sport!
From: Amir Michail <amichail () gmail ! com>
Date: 2005-06-22 10:23:52
Message-ID: eb96969305062203237bbf32b7 () mail ! gmail ! com
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On 6/22/05, Richard Dale <Richard_Dale@tipitina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> On Wednesday 22 June 2005 12:09, Amir Michail wrote:
> > On 6/22/05, Richard Dale <Richard_Dale@tipitina.demon.co.uk> wrote:
> > > We already have the excellent weekly Commit Digest produced by Derek
> > > Kite, which does exactly what you describe. It is then discussed on the
> > > KDE dot news site by the 'general public', and the developers often
> > > reply.
> >
> > Yes, but we can take it further.
> >
> > First, we could have an automated system to pick up highlights. This
> > would make it more scalable than manually identifying such highlights.
> > Of course, such a system may give poor results and might be best
> > combined with manual analysis.
> Yes, that's what Derek has done. The code is in the KDE svn.
>
> > Second, we could have spectators bet on various events (e.g., who
> > will win an argument, when a bug will be fixed, whether a new feature
> > will be added, whether a developer will gain/lose CVS write access,
> > etc.). This would make things more fun and provide another way to
> > identify interesting events. See the buzz game as an example of what
> > could be done: http://buzz.research.yahoo.com/bk/market/index.html
> This won't affect the behaviour of developers.
I think betting would make it more fun for the spectators. It need
not affect the behavior of the developers.
Amir
>
> > Third, we could allow spectators to focus on individuals (e.g., see
> > all their posts and commits). Popular developers could get sponsored
> > by companies just like sports stars.
> We want people to partipate, not throw money at us.
>
> > Fourth, we could have expert commentary on everything from code
> > commits to interactions between developers. These experts would help
> > the spectators understand key computer science/software engineering
> > principles and how they are applied (or not) in various projects.
> > This expert commentary could fuel the betting.
> Derek often adds his own commentary, illustrated with extracts from
> discussions on kde mailing lists. For instance, there might have been talk
> about whether kde should use cvs or subversion, and Derek will extract the
> highlights from the thread on kde-core-devel. Or when a developer has some
> interesting news about the weeks commits, they email Derek and he will add
> their comments in the prolog to the Digest.
>
> -- Richard
>
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