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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Allow money donations for precise bugs
From:       LostSon <lostson () lostsonsvault ! org>
Date:       2005-03-12 17:38:03
Message-ID: 200503121138.06514.lostson () lostsonsvault ! org
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On Saturday 12 March 2005 10:28 am, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Saturday 12 March 2005 16:41, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Saturday 12 March 2005 12:37, Maurizio Colucci wrote:
> > > Currently, in bugs.kde.org, I can *vote* for some bugs or new features.
> > > My idea is to allow KDE users and fans to put their *money* in place of
> > > abstract "votes".
> >
> > the more i think about this, the more problems i see it creating. "people
> > paying for bad features" is the least of them IMHO. there's issues of who
> > decides when it's "done"; there's issues of code quality; there's issues
> > of
>
> In particular, there's no one (well, Carlos maybe, or the eV) who could
> effectively play the role of "banker", collecting pledges before the code
> is done. If you were to ask me, I would say "your word is your bond, and
> I'll take the money when it's done" -- and trust users to put their money
> where their mouths are.
>
> In my 7 years of hacking so far, it has happened exactly *once* that
> someone said "I'll pay 50 bucks for such-and-so." And he did, and George M.
> still has my thanks for that. Once. Maybe I'm in the wrong branch of KDE,
> though.
>
> > and yet it seems like an intuitive idea. one that could work if only
> > tweaked in some way... so how about this scenario:
> >
> > a concerned and excited group of KDE fans create a Friends of KDE that
> > other people could join for $N/year or month or whatever for which they
> > get
>
> We have such a thing .. it's the eV, a charitable (?) organization in
> Germany. They might not hand out little cards, though.
>
> > if people don't like how the existing development is going, i don't see
> > how their $20 is going to change that. if they do like how it is going
> > and would like to say "thank you" and even help it go smoother and
> > faster, then i can see that $20 helping.
>
> Aye. Your pledge of $20, or Matt's pledge of a beer if ever we meet, is
> incentive for me to work on something. But just that .. incentive. Not a
> big stick with a nail in it. The fun is an incentive too.
>
> That's to say, I'm not opposed to getting money sometimes for what I do,
> but I'm not in the business of being employed to do KDE stuff. Some folks
> might want to be that -- take the Kontact shopping page, for instance --
> but that's very much an individual decision.

 So in other words those of us with little or no money to spare, would see the 
features we like would get left out because we cannot afford to pay 
developers to sway to our side of the fence. Lets not forget that many people 
use linux simply for the fact that it is publicly available for little or no 
money. How would this affect alot of the NPO organizations who use linux for 
its reasonable TCO would they have to donate to get devs to add a feature to 
help them out. Im all for developers and such receiving recognition and i 
donate money to projects when i can afford it through either buying shirts 
coffe cups and or donating directly to the project. This idea however is just 
gonna cause mass amounts of problems. This idea stinks just like the whole 
porting KDE to windows does.
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