From kde-devel  Sat Mar 12 17:38:03 2005
From: LostSon <lostson () lostsonsvault ! org>
Date: Sat, 12 Mar 2005 17:38:03 +0000
To: kde-devel
Subject: Re: Allow money donations for precise bugs
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On Saturday 12 March 2005 10:28 am, Adriaan de Groot wrote:
> On Saturday 12 March 2005 16:41, Aaron J. Seigo wrote:
> > On Saturday 12 March 2005 12:37, Maurizio Colucci wrote:
> > > Currently, in bugs.kde.org, I can *vote* for some bugs or new feature=
s.
> > > My idea is to allow KDE users and fans to put their *money* in place =
of
> > > abstract "votes".
> >
> > the more i think about this, the more problems i see it creating. "peop=
le
> > paying for bad features" is the least of them IMHO. there's issues of w=
ho
> > decides when it's "done"; there's issues of code quality; there's issues
> > of
>
> In particular, there's no one (well, Carlos maybe, or the eV) who could
> effectively play the role of "banker", collecting pledges before the code
> is done. If you were to ask me, I would say "your word is your bond, and
> I'll take the money when it's done" -- and trust users to put their money
> where their mouths are.
>
> In my 7 years of hacking so far, it has happened exactly *once* that
> someone said "I'll pay 50 bucks for such-and-so." And he did, and George =
M.
> still has my thanks for that. Once. Maybe I'm in the wrong branch of KDE,
> though.
>
> > and yet it seems like an intuitive idea. one that could work if only
> > tweaked in some way... so how about this scenario:
> >
> > a concerned and excited group of KDE fans create a Friends of KDE that
> > other people could join for $N/year or month or whatever for which they
> > get
>
> We have such a thing .. it's the eV, a charitable (?) organization in
> Germany. They might not hand out little cards, though.
>
> > if people don't like how the existing development is going, i don't see
> > how their $20 is going to change that. if they do like how it is going
> > and would like to say "thank you" and even help it go smoother and
> > faster, then i can see that $20 helping.
>
> Aye. Your pledge of $20, or Matt's pledge of a beer if ever we meet, is
> incentive for me to work on something. But just that .. incentive. Not a
> big stick with a nail in it. The fun is an incentive too.
>
> That's to say, I'm not opposed to getting money sometimes for what I do,
> but I'm not in the business of being employed to do KDE stuff. Some folks
> might want to be that -- take the Kontact shopping page, for instance --
> but that's very much an individual decision.

 So in other words those of us with little or no money to spare, would see =
the=20
features we like would get left out because we cannot afford to pay=20
developers to sway to our side of the fence. Lets not forget that many peop=
le=20
use linux simply for the fact that it is publicly available for little or n=
o=20
money. How would this affect alot of the NPO organizations who use linux fo=
r=20
its reasonable TCO would they have to donate to get devs to add a feature t=
o=20
help them out. Im all for developers and such receiving recognition and i=20
donate money to projects when i can afford it through either buying shirts=
=20
coffe cups and or donating directly to the project. This idea however is ju=
st=20
gonna cause mass amounts of problems. This idea stinks just like the whole=
=20
porting KDE to windows does.
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