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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    RE: KLaptop: Add support for command before/after suspend/resume
From:       "Tim Carr" <tdot () fuzzymunchkin ! com>
Date:       2004-03-23 2:28:44
Message-ID: 20040323022846.C87921C7A6 () tdot-uw ! dyndns ! org
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Right, I agree with everything that you said Paul, and if I'd had the skill,
I would have certainly implemented something that interfaces with
ACPI4Linux.  But I don't have the skill... I merely wanted to start
conversation about this desired functionality, and what better way to do it
than make a really dirty hack that pisses off the maintainers ;)

Anyways, if you could put what you suggested (configuring linux's main
ACPI/APM/whatever) onto the wishlist for KLaptop, that'd be awesome!

Keep up the *terrific* work, KLaptop is great as it is -- only the fact that
my laptop sucks is making my life difficult :)

Tim

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Paul Campbell [mailto:paul@taniwha.com]
> Sent: Monday, March 22, 2004 6:47 PM
> To: kde-devel@mail.kde.org
> Cc: Pieter Pareit; tdot@fuzzymunchkin.com
> Subject: Re: KLaptop: Add support for command before/after suspend/resume
> 
> On Sunday 21 March 2004 12:59 pm, Pieter Pareit wrote:
> > Op zondag 21 maart 2004 20:52, schreef Tim Carr:
> > > Hello,
> > >
> > > I made a dirty, dirty hack to have KLaptop run a configurable (from
> Power
> > > Control config dialog) command before suspending, and after resuming.
> > > It's basically showing what I wanted in this message here (KDE list):
> > >
> > > http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=kde&m=107955864702607&w=2
> >
> > What you made is really great, but there might be a problem with the
> use.
> > If your laptop needs to unload it's usb modules before suspend, then
> this
> > functionality should be global, and not only for the current user.
> > Currently it is indeed nice, but it only will work when you are the only
> > user using that laptop and are logged in when suspending...
> >
> > Most distro's run some scripts just before suspend and just after
> suspend,
> > with or without someone logged in.
> >
> > It would still be nice to have a control center module that could go
> into
> > root/admin mode to configure this part of a system.
> 
> (I'm the klaptop maintainer ....)
> 
> and really this is the right thing to do - having the KDE laptop code do
> the
> unloading/loading (or run scripts at this point etc etc) is almost
> certainly
> the wrong thing for a number of reasons:
> 
> 	- they will only happen when you are logged on (chances are you want
> them
> 		done at all times) - really the current daemon should do
this
> - if
> 		viable power control daemons start to show up (there are a
few
> starting
> 		to appear) I've planned on having the current system default
> to using an
> 		existing running daemon rather than the builtin one where
> possible
> 
> 	- almost anything you want to have run at suspend/resume time
> probably
> 		needs to be done as root, not the user you are logged on as
> 
> 	- what you want in BSD or solaris may be different from when you
> want in
> 		linux or OSX etc etc
> 
> Really KDE isn't the solution to all things much as we would like it to be
> -
> what we can do is assume that maybe KDE wants to be the UI for configuring
> those solutions - so a plugin or panel for configuring the linux power
> control interface might be more appropriate (maybe editing those scripts).
> 
> In that vein YAST was just GPL'd  -can we pick it up as part of KDE? - it
> solves many of these sorts of problems for Linux users (but again maybe
> not a
> whole bunch of others)
> 
> 	Paul


 
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