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Subject: Re: Call for Kastle branch
From: James Richard Tyrer <tyrerj () acm ! org>
Date: 2003-08-16 19:29:57
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Rob Kaper wrote:
> In a rather long post on my blog ( http://capzilla.net/blog/2057/ ), I've
> made a call for a Kastle branch.
>
> In short, I think it makes sense to consider those contributors not being
> able to participate by giving them a chance for more peer review and
> discussion before new features are committed as a result of the hackfest.
>
> It's quite possible that "non-trivial" changes will be made and I'd like to
> remind everyone that it's a good idea to discuss those changes on the
> appropriate mailinglists first and give contributors not present a chance to
> voice their concerns, requirements and wishes.
>
> I realize there's nothing in our policies to enforce this kind of behavior,
> but note that it would be respectful.
>
<<
There may be no I in team, but there's a K in teamwork all right. Projects
like KDE celebrate distributed development. All changes are available in a
public CVS repository and practically every single thought or idea is being
discussed on the KDE mailinglists beforehand. This method of work respects
every single contributor, regardless of location.
>>
I don't think that this is the case. I am on record as strongly favoring
discussion of how KDE should be designed before code is written, or failing
that, after code is written and it doesn't work. I don't see that
happening in many cases. I have suggested that this discussion should
occur on the mailing list, perhaps an additional mailing list is needed,
but have been told that Bugzilla is the place for this discussion.
Obviously, a discussion on Bugzilla can only occur after the code has been
written -- in some cases before it was designed. Obviously, it would have
saved effort in many cases if the discussion had occurred before the code
was written. But, I have been told that the rule is that he who codes
makes the decisions.
However, it doesn't really make a lot of difference who discusses the
questions because it is the discussion that leads to new ideas. So, the
"hackfest" would be a good thing because it should lead to discussion. The
problem I see is that this discussion would not be for a long enough period
of time.
If that is the case, there will be a need for more bug reports. And bug
reports do not, despite what I was told, promote discussion because bug
reports are short and are subject to misinterpretation -- developers think
that you are criticizing them when you tell them exactly what their code
does wrong.
Discussion is a good think, and I would like to promote it. But, I don't
see how adding an additional tag to CVS commits from Kastle will help.
Just wait and see how much discussion of my recent post:
[PATCH] Qt PostScript font names
there is.
--
JRT
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