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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: FOLLOW UP: Problem building KDEMultimedia
From:       Benjamin Meyer <ben () meyerhome ! net>
Date:       2003-07-10 16:50:53
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> but what about 6
> months time when a new linux kernel version is out, with yet another
> variation of the header? This could potentially cause build problems
> that we cannot easily foresee at the moment.

By then kde 3.2 will hopefully be almost near to release and this problem will 
go away :)

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> one wonders why a Linux
> > specific header was included without an alternative for other OSes.

At the time of the 3.1 work KAudiocreator only worked on linux.  Now it is 
supported on more.

> As for alternatives, fixing the use of linux-specific headers in KDE is
> probably the hardest part that the various non-linux packaging teams
> have to deal with. Some times the alternatives are used in wildly
> different ways, and that in itself causes a lot of work.
>
> I'm not saying that the programmers are wrong to use them, but in some
> cases it does make the portability to other platforms extremely
> difficult. Quite often we (packagers) just disable the building of
> certain KDE applications, simply because of these issues. Of course,
> wherever possible we attempt to find a workround, and if it doesn't
> cause problems we will bring it 'upstream' back into KDE CVS.
>
> Basically, if a program does something down towards the hardware level
> (like cdrom access, or ioctls) or kernel level (querying memory etc for
> apps like ksim), it could be difficult to achieve portability.
>
> It's a penalty we have to deal with, for using another Operating System.
> As the alternative OSes gain popularity and users (and coders), then we
> stand a chance of gaining portability in some of these applications.

Good thing I don't do that anymore :)  What would solve all of our problems 
would be to backport the head branch of kaudiocreator (which is stable right 
now), but that can't be done because it also requres the new kde cddb libary 
and kautoconfig* to be backported.

- -Benjamin Meyer

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