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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: frameless kicker applets
From:       Waldo Bastian <bastian () kde ! org>
Date:       2003-06-18 19:17:22
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On Wednesday 18 June 2003 19:24, Melchior FRANZ wrote:
> * Aaron J. Seigo -- Wednesday 18 June 2003 19:01:
> > will users die if there's a frame? nope.
>
> Nope. Neither will they die if there =is= a frame. Fortunately.
>
> > does kicker appear less cluttered and more approchable without them? yes.
>
> The frame around the time display isn't comparable to other applet
> frames. The latter ones may be seen as redundant because they surround
> the whole applet. The former is a design property of one element of
> an applet---the time display. The digital clock simulates a real,
> physical clock. And these mostly =do= have a frame. (I know, because
> I have some standing around here. BTW: My pocket calculator's display
> has a frame, too. So has kcalc's. :-)

I don(t mind the frame in SOME configurations, but I don't think it should be 
a configuration option in it's own right. The frame should be there when it 
makes sense, and it should be left out when it doesn't.

I think the criteria for the frame should be: 
* When the clock background matches the kicker background: no frame
* All other cases: a frame

Since everyone seems to be very concerned about the clock these days, it would 
also be nice if the Date/Timezone indication would be using proper colors. 
Currently the date-text uses the color that is configured for the time-text, 
but the background of the data-text differs from the time-text, so one may be 
readable while the other one is not. Either the date-text should not use the 
color configured for the time-text, or the background of the date-text should 
match with the background of the rest of the clock.

Cheers,
Waldo
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