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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: Styles and CO (was: (offtopic) My mom is a born hacker)
From:       "Gerold J. Wucherpfennig" <gjwucherpfennig () gmx ! net>
Date:       2003-04-22 9:26:19
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On Tuesday 22 April 2003 01:51, Mosfet wrote:
...
>
> You talk about two different things here: user interface widgets and
> application clutter.
>

ok

> As far as user interface styles I think more than enough people like Liquid
> and Keramik to justify their extistance.

I used them for some time and like them :-)
For me, hicolor's "accessibility" and "readability" are 
better and it uses less space for deco

> Not everyone, of course -
> different people have different tastes - but a lot of people would sure be
> disappointed if there never was a Liquid, (and hence Keramik, etc... ;-)

Yes, freedom of choice.

> Of
> course if you felt the old KDE default was enough and people should just be
> happy with that then things like Liquid and Keramik are a waste

No, I don't want that. Use sane defaults and let everybody choose
what they prefer. Tweaking the UI (with styles, etc.) is not a very high prio.
task for most users. Instead they want to be productive, the PC is just a
tool.

>, but many
> many people felt that was lame and wanted more.
> I originally wrote both the old KDE default and Liquid so I don't really
> care, but personally I couldn't imagine going back to some of my older
> styles like the KDE2.0/3.0 default :P It sucked and was lame IMHO, and I
> wrote the damn thing ;-)

Now you get emotional ;-)

>
> As for application clutter, strangely enough she hasn't complained about
> that at all. You know why? Because the defaults are good and she doesn't
> have to screw around with anything. Once we selected a widget style she
> liked and configured her email and PPP dialup she hasn't messed with
> anything since. She starts up her dialup connection, checks email, and
> browses web pages by typing in URLs with Konq. Occassionally she views an
> attachment. She's had no problem with KDE. The people who have problems
> with the user interface are mostly those who go around playing with stuff
> and say "gosh - look at all this stuff", while generally Moms just do what
> they need to do to see their email and their son's webpage >:)

It depends on what you want to do with a system.

Not everybody has a kde guru at home ;-).

Kppp is a bit difficult to configure and it's only for dialup modem 
connections. 



 
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