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List:       kde-devel
Subject:    Re: A proposal to deal with the current RedHat situation
From:       Mike Richardson <mike () quaking ! demon ! co ! uk>
Date:       2002-09-03 18:41:16
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On Tuesday 03 September 2002 6:25 pm, Kuba Ober wrote:
> > > they are some scripts that we made to automate the process, no we are
> > > not giving the scripts away, but that is hardly relevant to building
> > > the
> >
> > I'd be against the use of proprietary tools to develop and distribute
> > KDE. We'd be in the same position from the pre-GPL Qt days: people will
> > bitch and if you would decide to stop offering the service or refuse to
> > accept fixes/patches we need or specs for specific distributions (what if
> > you team up with one of them?) we would be screwed.
>
> I'm imagining they have a set of scripts that:
>
> 1. Keep many distributions installed side-by-side on a single machine by
> (in order of increasing hassle to implement)
> - using bootloader switching with different root partitions, or using
> runlevel-1 remounting with busybox,
> - using usermode linux,
> - using chroot environment for each distro

Chroot is our friend:) This works since we are not building anything that 
depends directly on the kernel.

>
> 2. Automate invoking ./configure; ./make or rpmbuild -ba in any
> distribution by using the mechanism of (1) to start the distro, and then
> actually invoking and logging the build progress.

Yep.

>
> I don't think there's anything special about their scripts, apart from the
> fact that they automate the building, and make it possible on a single
> machine for many distributions. I'm quite sure that, given the .spec files,
> anybody can just make exactly same packages by building them on a
> fresh-installed distribution, as TheKompany can on their Jane machine.

Indeed, nothing very clever

>
> This isn't about "use of proprietary tools to develop and distrbute KDE".
> This is about "use of propertary scripts to manage 40 diffierent distros on
> one machine to build kde packages in those distros without having to have
> 40 pc's rummaging around".

That was our view. Its made life a lot easier (on the whole :)

>
> I'd say that a bootloader- or runlevel-1 based thingo can be made by a
> reasonably skilled script coder in about 2-3 days (save for time needed to
> actually install the distros).
>
> Cheers, Kuba Ober
>
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